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6.5 PRC for Extreme Long Range Hunting?
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<blockquote data-quote="Gamesniper19" data-source="post: 1532251" data-attributes="member: 95013"><p>Your answers are predicated on your opinion...and you are entitled to it. Opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one including me. So here is mine based on personal, military, professional industry hunting and shooting, wildcat cartridge development, and rifle building experiences.</p><p></p><p>Having taken more than 160 big game animals over the past 20 years at various distance and with various calibers, including 6.5's at >800 yards; My personal and professional hunting experience at extreme long range, which also has changed over time from my military days to today, is that any hunter attempting to shoot any animal at >800 yards is extreme long range. Don't care how much you practice or how much you have been shooting. Field shooting of game animals at >800 yards takes a special rifle, hunter, and the right conditions. Most hunters can't/shouldnt even attempt it. Data suggest that less than 10% of all hunters ever shoot more than 300 yards at an animal. My personal experience with novice hunters/shooters on the range is that they show up, shoot 5 shots in the black at 100 yards and call it good. Now with all that said:</p><p></p><p>A 6.5 caliber is enough to kill deer sized animals with one clean shot at >800 yards. I have done it, seen it done by other hunters, and spent time with some of the most influential industry shooters who are military trained who have also done it, with something as small as a 6.5 CM.</p><p></p><p>To say that powder to bullet size makes no difference is contrary to every innovation and caliber that is on the market, are you sure you wanted to say that? Forget barrel life for a moment and consider your premise...Powder and projectile, and the speed and energy they create, make ALL the difference in long range shooting; if the amount of powder and size of bullet DIDN'T matter, we would shoot .308 caliber bullets out of a 223 so it wouldn't kick, oh wait, we already do in a 300 blackout and we know the effective range of that rifle, about 400 yards and I would never try to kill an animal by looping that slow heavy bullet 400 yards.</p><p></p><p>The purpose of this thread was to ask/answer if the 6.5 PRC is enough rifle to kill at extreme long range hunting distance. My answer is based on my definition of ELR of >800 yards and yes the 6.5 PRC will, given all of the parameters have been met. The rifle and bullet are capable on deer sized game, if the hunter is. I would not use a 6.5 caliber to kill an elk at that distance. Not saying it cannot be done, my opinion is that you should bring a caliber of size and ability to EASILY kill the largest animal you are hunting at any distance you are proficient. If you shoot a smaller sized animal on the same hunt too, so be it, the animal wont know the difference.</p><p>So my opinion is only mine, based on the data I have gathered and experienced. Stepping off my pulpit and letting others take part...JM is out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gamesniper19, post: 1532251, member: 95013"] Your answers are predicated on your opinion...and you are entitled to it. Opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one including me. So here is mine based on personal, military, professional industry hunting and shooting, wildcat cartridge development, and rifle building experiences. Having taken more than 160 big game animals over the past 20 years at various distance and with various calibers, including 6.5's at >800 yards; My personal and professional hunting experience at extreme long range, which also has changed over time from my military days to today, is that any hunter attempting to shoot any animal at >800 yards is extreme long range. Don't care how much you practice or how much you have been shooting. Field shooting of game animals at >800 yards takes a special rifle, hunter, and the right conditions. Most hunters can't/shouldnt even attempt it. Data suggest that less than 10% of all hunters ever shoot more than 300 yards at an animal. My personal experience with novice hunters/shooters on the range is that they show up, shoot 5 shots in the black at 100 yards and call it good. Now with all that said: A 6.5 caliber is enough to kill deer sized animals with one clean shot at >800 yards. I have done it, seen it done by other hunters, and spent time with some of the most influential industry shooters who are military trained who have also done it, with something as small as a 6.5 CM. To say that powder to bullet size makes no difference is contrary to every innovation and caliber that is on the market, are you sure you wanted to say that? Forget barrel life for a moment and consider your premise...Powder and projectile, and the speed and energy they create, make ALL the difference in long range shooting; if the amount of powder and size of bullet DIDN'T matter, we would shoot .308 caliber bullets out of a 223 so it wouldn't kick, oh wait, we already do in a 300 blackout and we know the effective range of that rifle, about 400 yards and I would never try to kill an animal by looping that slow heavy bullet 400 yards. The purpose of this thread was to ask/answer if the 6.5 PRC is enough rifle to kill at extreme long range hunting distance. My answer is based on my definition of ELR of >800 yards and yes the 6.5 PRC will, given all of the parameters have been met. The rifle and bullet are capable on deer sized game, if the hunter is. I would not use a 6.5 caliber to kill an elk at that distance. Not saying it cannot be done, my opinion is that you should bring a caliber of size and ability to EASILY kill the largest animal you are hunting at any distance you are proficient. If you shoot a smaller sized animal on the same hunt too, so be it, the animal wont know the difference. So my opinion is only mine, based on the data I have gathered and experienced. Stepping off my pulpit and letting others take part...JM is out. [/QUOTE]
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