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6.5 Creedmoor: Maximum Lethal Range for Whitetail
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<blockquote data-quote="adam" data-source="post: 1973413" data-attributes="member: 9382"><p>It's just not a reliable guide anymore...when those "guidelines" were established a very small segment of the population were writing their experience in paper magazines with cup and core bullets in a very small variety of speed ranges, think gameking in a 270 or a "HUGE"caliber like the 338 win shooting 225gr noslers and were using Scopes that needed to be hit on the turret to "accept" the adjustment. A vortex pst would have been an elite military scope in those years...super secret even. today people have the meh's for it.</p><p></p><p>These Opinions are repeated as gospel and don't reflect modern construction or more importantly accuracy and reflect a willingness to shoot based on internet "knowledge" vs actually experiencing the conditions.</p><p></p><p>One of my favorite cartridges for northern Wisconsin whitetail shoots a 110 game king at 2400fps. It's only good to about 350 yds, but within that it's seriously like a grenade up the stink hole. Just works.</p><p></p><p>My local class 3 dealer told me it was a real skill to hit .5" prior to 2000. Guy had been building tack drivers for 30 years. After 2000 it was a sign of poor workmanship if you couldn't get a barrel to shoot .5"</p><p></p><p>Today I have personally sighted in multiple factory rifles from more than 3 manufacturers that have shot .3 Moa within the first box out to 1150 and beyond. I have personally shot a well bedded factory rifle to 1 moa at a mile. I fully expect that I will hit within 1/4 moa in reasonable conditions out to 600 in a creedmoor. My magnums expand that range way further.</p><p></p><p>I started experimenting with the creedmoor because I needed high volume in a light rifle for my son. I bought a ruger American and put a Nikon m223 on it. Went camping in eastern Washington and have video of two kids under 13 hitting sub .75moa at 800 in variable winds gusting from 6-20mph with good dope and a reasonable spotter and repeated many times with numerous shooters who had never shot more than 100yds.</p><p></p><p>Today, when you put the bullet in the place it belongs within the speed range it is designed to expand... bang flop..... least that's been my experience....stopped counting somewhere around 125 or so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="adam, post: 1973413, member: 9382"] It’s just not a reliable guide anymore...when those “guidelines” were established a very small segment of the population were writing their experience in paper magazines with cup and core bullets in a very small variety of speed ranges, think gameking in a 270 or a “HUGE”caliber like the 338 win shooting 225gr noslers and were using Scopes that needed to be hit on the turret to “accept” the adjustment. A vortex pst would have been an elite military scope in those years...super secret even. today people have the meh’s for it. These Opinions are repeated as gospel and don’t reflect modern construction or more importantly accuracy and reflect a willingness to shoot based on internet “knowledge” vs actually experiencing the conditions. One of my favorite cartridges for northern Wisconsin whitetail shoots a 110 game king at 2400fps. It’s only good to about 350 yds, but within that it’s seriously like a grenade up the stink hole. Just works. My local class 3 dealer told me it was a real skill to hit .5” prior to 2000. Guy had been building tack drivers for 30 years. After 2000 it was a sign of poor workmanship if you couldn’t get a barrel to shoot .5” Today I have personally sighted in multiple factory rifles from more than 3 manufacturers that have shot .3 Moa within the first box out to 1150 and beyond. I have personally shot a well bedded factory rifle to 1 moa at a mile. I fully expect that I will hit within 1/4 moa in reasonable conditions out to 600 in a creedmoor. My magnums expand that range way further. I started experimenting with the creedmoor because I needed high volume in a light rifle for my son. I bought a ruger American and put a Nikon m223 on it. Went camping in eastern Washington and have video of two kids under 13 hitting sub .75moa at 800 in variable winds gusting from 6-20mph with good dope and a reasonable spotter and repeated many times with numerous shooters who had never shot more than 100yds. Today, when you put the bullet in the place it belongs within the speed range it is designed to expand... bang flop..... least that’s been my experience....stopped counting somewhere around 125 or so. [/QUOTE]
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