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6.5-284 vs 270 win
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<blockquote data-quote="Derek M." data-source="post: 447503" data-attributes="member: 2693"><p>Well, that is easy because the same outcome has occurred with non-Ackley calibers, and likely more often, though I have no evidence. So it is pointless in my opinion. Regarding case life, there are lots of factors that affect that. I have Lapua, Winchester, and Norma brass that I've fired upwards of 30 times, I don't believe an Ackley shaped case is going to impress me. But that's not to say it won't impress someone else. </p><p></p><p>While at the range, I've seen a few guys with 280 AI, 30-06 AI, and one 260 AI. All 3 had feeding problems and all 3 belonged to 3 different shooters. Only the 280 AI demonstrated any pseudo-remarkable difference as the same shooter had a 280 as well that he planned on converting to an AI. Even he wasn't convinced it was worth the conversion. </p><p></p><p>Definitely fertile grounds for discussion but I don't think this thread is "paper/target-based." And in terms of kill-ability, I would still argue that at any reasonable range, the game would never know the difference between a 280AI or a 280 Remington with all other factors the same. The benefits to the AI calibers, IMO, are so minimal that I wouldn't waste my time on them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Derek M., post: 447503, member: 2693"] Well, that is easy because the same outcome has occurred with non-Ackley calibers, and likely more often, though I have no evidence. So it is pointless in my opinion. Regarding case life, there are lots of factors that affect that. I have Lapua, Winchester, and Norma brass that I've fired upwards of 30 times, I don't believe an Ackley shaped case is going to impress me. But that's not to say it won't impress someone else. While at the range, I've seen a few guys with 280 AI, 30-06 AI, and one 260 AI. All 3 had feeding problems and all 3 belonged to 3 different shooters. Only the 280 AI demonstrated any pseudo-remarkable difference as the same shooter had a 280 as well that he planned on converting to an AI. Even he wasn't convinced it was worth the conversion. Definitely fertile grounds for discussion but I don't think this thread is "paper/target-based." And in terms of kill-ability, I would still argue that at any reasonable range, the game would never know the difference between a 280AI or a 280 Remington with all other factors the same. The benefits to the AI calibers, IMO, are so minimal that I wouldn't waste my time on them. [/QUOTE]
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