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<blockquote data-quote="sable tireur" data-source="post: 1468024" data-attributes="member: 27307"><p>If this was my first sheep hunt, I would certainly do my homework with regard to choosing the right cartridge and bullet <strong>for the ranges usually called for</strong> when hunting sheep. The powders tested would be reasonably temperature insensitive for the time of year chosen for this hunt. But I've used both types of powders with great success when I developed the loads during the temps noted for the time of year with no problems whatsoever. If you're shooting in cold weather, develop your load in cold weather then go hunt.</p><p></p><p>I pay no attention to all the conversation about the<em> 'big' </em>differences between using a short action and a long action for certain cartridges. If the long action is the only solution to your dilemma, then TIKKA has it right as all of their available cartridges are built on long actions. However, when testing most cartridges for seating depth and load velocities, seating most bullets, including VLDs, at magazine length (2.925" usually or SAAMI) in short actions, makes very little pragmatic difference. Folks assume(?) that because you have more powder space, seating the bullet out in a long action yields more velocity, when in truth there are few distinguishable difference on the game when an appropriate powder is selected. As with all data and the interpretation of it, there will be differing opinions.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I have used and will continue to use, the 6.5 GAP 4S (6.5 SAUM) in a short Titanium action combined with a 130 grain VLD bullet over a max load of Re-25, IMR-7828 or MRP2. In cold weather (30 and below) and altitudes from 7,000 to 9,000 ft. I have never suffered a failure with these loads when they were developed for cold weather. Of course I use a magnum primer just to be sure.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> This combination yields 3200+ fps. and will maintain 1,000 ft/lbs of energy at 950 yards, which is well beyond what I shoot for. </p><p></p><p>Titanium action, carbon fiber barrel, carbon fiber stock (ultralight configuration), a great scope and trigger should get you where you want to be, safe and comfortable with longer shots. Be sure to concentrate on the very first cold bore shot from the rifle. Develop your consistency from this shot. Practice. </p><p></p><p>All of the above is not to say that you can't build a fine rifle for the 6.5x284 or even a favorite of mine, the .264 Win Mag or the 6.5 WSM which is a terrific hunting cartridge. You can and you will find good positive results from any of these for your hunt.</p><p></p><p>Enjoy the experience!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sable tireur, post: 1468024, member: 27307"] If this was my first sheep hunt, I would certainly do my homework with regard to choosing the right cartridge and bullet [B]for the ranges usually called for[/B] when hunting sheep. The powders tested would be reasonably temperature insensitive for the time of year chosen for this hunt. But I've used both types of powders with great success when I developed the loads during the temps noted for the time of year with no problems whatsoever. If you're shooting in cold weather, develop your load in cold weather then go hunt. I pay no attention to all the conversation about the[I] 'big' [/I]differences between using a short action and a long action for certain cartridges. If the long action is the only solution to your dilemma, then TIKKA has it right as all of their available cartridges are built on long actions. However, when testing most cartridges for seating depth and load velocities, seating most bullets, including VLDs, at magazine length (2.925" usually or SAAMI) in short actions, makes very little pragmatic difference. Folks assume(?) that because you have more powder space, seating the bullet out in a long action yields more velocity, when in truth there are few distinguishable difference on the game when an appropriate powder is selected. As with all data and the interpretation of it, there will be differing opinions.;) I have used and will continue to use, the 6.5 GAP 4S (6.5 SAUM) in a short Titanium action combined with a 130 grain VLD bullet over a max load of Re-25, IMR-7828 or MRP2. In cold weather (30 and below) and altitudes from 7,000 to 9,000 ft. I have never suffered a failure with these loads when they were developed for cold weather. Of course I use a magnum primer just to be sure.:D This combination yields 3200+ fps. and will maintain 1,000 ft/lbs of energy at 950 yards, which is well beyond what I shoot for. Titanium action, carbon fiber barrel, carbon fiber stock (ultralight configuration), a great scope and trigger should get you where you want to be, safe and comfortable with longer shots. Be sure to concentrate on the very first cold bore shot from the rifle. Develop your consistency from this shot. Practice. All of the above is not to say that you can't build a fine rifle for the 6.5x284 or even a favorite of mine, the .264 Win Mag or the 6.5 WSM which is a terrific hunting cartridge. You can and you will find good positive results from any of these for your hunt. Enjoy the experience! [/QUOTE]
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