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6.5-06 vs. 6.5-284
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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 140921" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>James,</p><p></p><p>What barrel length you running on that Gibbs. I do not know for sure but I would have to say that anything anywhere near 3300 fps sounds pretty optomistic but then I have never tested the Gibbs.</p><p></p><p>I can say that even in a 30" barrel the 6.5-06 AI will top out at 3200 fps with a 140 gr class bullet.</p><p></p><p>It is pretty common for gunsmiths to inflate the projected velocity of a round they are chambering, guess thats just human nature. I can not tell you how many customers I have had to deprogram on the 257 STW because they read some article by a gunsmith named Ferguson down in TX or somewhere like that that supposedly invented the 257 Hot Tamale which is nothing but a 257 STW which was around long before him.</p><p></p><p>He reported for years that this chambering would get you 4100 fps with a 100 gr bullet in a 28" pipe. Alot of primer pockets were blown from guys thinking they could get this velocity level and for years Ferguson stood by his claims.</p><p></p><p>I even personally called him on it about three years ago and his reply was that was what he was getting with his special chamber design.</p><p></p><p>Well, talked to a customer a couple weeks ago that wanted an STW and he said he had talked to Ferguson about building one of his Hot Tamale rifles. Seems now Ferguson is still claiming 4100 fps with the 100 gr TSX bullet but now he is telling customers that you can only shoot your brass one time and then you have to throw it away!!!</p><p></p><p>I am not saying your smith is doing this but what I am saying is that many smiths use velocity as a selling point far to often. I will admit I do it alot with my Allen Magnums but I will not post a projected velocity that I have not proven realistic and practical with decent case life.</p><p></p><p>The velocity expectations that were given to you not only exceed anything the 6.5mm WSM or 264 Win Mag will get, they also match what a 6.5mm STW or my 6.5mm Allen Xpress wildcat will get with a 140 gr pill.</p><p></p><p>Will be interesting to hear how your case life is and where you pressure out if you decide to push things higher then the 3200 fps level your at right now which personally I would feel would be about tops where you should be in a 30" barrel if that is the barrel length your using.</p><p></p><p>Just curious and no flame intended in any way, just seems like alot of velocity for this size of round. Case design will go along way to getting you consistancy and long case life, concerning getting high velocity, there is really only one way to do it, just like with engines, cubic inches in the cylinders!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif</p><p></p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 140921, member: 10"] James, What barrel length you running on that Gibbs. I do not know for sure but I would have to say that anything anywhere near 3300 fps sounds pretty optomistic but then I have never tested the Gibbs. I can say that even in a 30" barrel the 6.5-06 AI will top out at 3200 fps with a 140 gr class bullet. It is pretty common for gunsmiths to inflate the projected velocity of a round they are chambering, guess thats just human nature. I can not tell you how many customers I have had to deprogram on the 257 STW because they read some article by a gunsmith named Ferguson down in TX or somewhere like that that supposedly invented the 257 Hot Tamale which is nothing but a 257 STW which was around long before him. He reported for years that this chambering would get you 4100 fps with a 100 gr bullet in a 28" pipe. Alot of primer pockets were blown from guys thinking they could get this velocity level and for years Ferguson stood by his claims. I even personally called him on it about three years ago and his reply was that was what he was getting with his special chamber design. Well, talked to a customer a couple weeks ago that wanted an STW and he said he had talked to Ferguson about building one of his Hot Tamale rifles. Seems now Ferguson is still claiming 4100 fps with the 100 gr TSX bullet but now he is telling customers that you can only shoot your brass one time and then you have to throw it away!!! I am not saying your smith is doing this but what I am saying is that many smiths use velocity as a selling point far to often. I will admit I do it alot with my Allen Magnums but I will not post a projected velocity that I have not proven realistic and practical with decent case life. The velocity expectations that were given to you not only exceed anything the 6.5mm WSM or 264 Win Mag will get, they also match what a 6.5mm STW or my 6.5mm Allen Xpress wildcat will get with a 140 gr pill. Will be interesting to hear how your case life is and where you pressure out if you decide to push things higher then the 3200 fps level your at right now which personally I would feel would be about tops where you should be in a 30" barrel if that is the barrel length your using. Just curious and no flame intended in any way, just seems like alot of velocity for this size of round. Case design will go along way to getting you consistancy and long case life, concerning getting high velocity, there is really only one way to do it, just like with engines, cubic inches in the cylinders!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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