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500-800 yd elk rifle
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<blockquote data-quote="memtb" data-source="post: 2027089" data-attributes="member: 75451"><p>I see nothing wrong with your .338 WM, especially with your 800 yard self-imposed range limit! My wife is using the same scope magnification range.....but, her self-imposed limit is 500 yards.</p><p></p><p> The following is a copy from a ballistics chart for my wife's .338 WM. Granted these are hand loads, using a 300 yard zero, with approximate atmospheric conditions in the computation! I think you will see that it maintains acceptable trajectories, energy, velocities for expansion, and wind drift for an 800 yard cartridge!</p><p></p><p> Some may disagree with my chart, but, I think that it's a fair representation of the cartridges capabilities! </p><p></p><p> As was once an expression used at amateur dirt track motorcycle racing....."Run what you brung"! memtb </p><p></p><p> </p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Drag Function: G1<br /> Ballistic Coefficient: 0.514<br /> Bullet Weight: 225 gr<br /> Initial Velocity: 2950 fps<br /> Sight Height : 1.5 in<br /> Shooting Angle: 0°</td><td>Wind Speed: 10 mph<br /> Wind Angle: 90°<br /> Zero Range: 300 yd<br /> Chart Range: 800 yd<br /> Maximum Range: 7472 yd<br /> Step Size: 25 yd</td><td><u>Corrected For Atmosphere</u><br /> Adjusted BC: 0.642<br /> Altitude: 7000 ft<br /> Barometric Pressure: 29.92 Hg<br /> Temperature: 40° F<br /> Relative Humidity: 40%<br /> Speed of Sound: 1096 fps</td></tr></table><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Range</td><td>Elevation</td><td>Elevation</td><td>Elevation</td><td>Windage</td><td>Windage</td><td>Windage</td><td>Time</td><td>Energy</td><td>Vel[x+y]</td></tr><tr><td>(yd)</td><td>(in)</td><td>(MOA)</td><td>(MIL)</td><td>(in)</td><td>(MOA)</td><td>(MIL)</td><td>(s)</td><td>(ft.lbf)</td><td>(ft/s)</td></tr><tr><td>0</td><td>-1.50</td><td>0.00</td><td>0.00</td><td>0.03</td><td>0.00</td><td>0.00</td><td>0.00</td><td>4349</td><td>2950</td></tr><tr><td>25</td><td>0.17</td><td>-0.66</td><td>-0.19</td><td>0.06</td><td>0.22</td><td>0.07</td><td>0.03</td><td>4239</td><td>2913</td></tr><tr><td>50</td><td>1.58</td><td>-3.01</td><td>-0.88</td><td>0.15</td><td>0.28</td><td>0.08</td><td>0.05</td><td>4132</td><td>2876</td></tr><tr><td>75</td><td>2.72</td><td>-3.46</td><td>-1.01</td><td>0.29</td><td>0.37</td><td>0.11</td><td>0.08</td><td>4028</td><td>2839</td></tr><tr><td>100</td><td>3.60</td><td>-3.43</td><td>-1.00</td><td>0.50</td><td>0.47</td><td>0.14</td><td>0.10</td><td>3926</td><td>2803</td></tr><tr><td>125</td><td>4.20</td><td>-3.20</td><td>-0.93</td><td>0.76</td><td>0.58</td><td>0.17</td><td>0.13</td><td>3825</td><td>2767</td></tr><tr><td>150</td><td>4.51</td><td>-2.87</td><td>-0.83</td><td>1.09</td><td>0.69</td><td>0.20</td><td>0.16</td><td>3727</td><td>2731</td></tr><tr><td>175</td><td>4.53</td><td>-2.47</td><td>-0.72</td><td>1.48</td><td>0.81</td><td>0.23</td><td>0.19</td><td>3632</td><td>2696</td></tr><tr><td>200</td><td>4.25</td><td>-2.03</td><td>-0.59</td><td>1.93</td><td>0.92</td><td>0.27</td><td>0.21</td><td>3538</td><td>2661</td></tr><tr><td>225</td><td>3.67</td><td>-1.56</td><td>-0.45</td><td>2.45</td><td>1.04</td><td>0.30</td><td>0.24</td><td>3446</td><td>2626</td></tr><tr><td>250</td><td>2.77</td><td>-1.06</td><td>-0.31</td><td>3.04</td><td>1.16</td><td>0.34</td><td>0.27</td><td>3355</td><td>2591</td></tr><tr><td>275</td><td>1.55</td><td>-0.54</td><td>-0.16</td><td>3.69</td><td>1.28</td><td>0.37</td><td>0.30</td><td>3267</td><td>2557</td></tr><tr><td>300</td><td>-0.01</td><td>0.00</td><td>0.00</td><td>4.42</td><td>1.41</td><td>0.41</td><td>0.33</td><td>3181</td><td>2523</td></tr><tr><td>325</td><td>-1.90</td><td>0.56</td><td>0.16</td><td>5.21</td><td>1.53</td><td>0.45</td><td>0.36</td><td>3096</td><td>2489</td></tr><tr><td>350</td><td>-4.15</td><td>1.13</td><td>0.33</td><td>6.07</td><td>1.66</td><td>0.48</td><td>0.39</td><td>3013</td><td>2456</td></tr><tr><td>375</td><td>-6.76</td><td>1.72</td><td>0.50</td><td>7.01</td><td>1.79</td><td>0.52</td><td>0.42</td><td>2932</td><td>2422</td></tr><tr><td>400</td><td>-9.73</td><td>2.32</td><td>0.68</td><td>8.03</td><td>1.92</td><td>0.56</td><td>0.45</td><td>2853</td><td>2389</td></tr><tr><td>425</td><td>-13.09</td><td>2.94</td><td>0.86</td><td>9.11</td><td>2.05</td><td>0.60</td><td>0.48</td><td>2775</td><td>2357</td></tr><tr><td>450</td><td>-16.84</td><td>3.57</td><td>1.04</td><td>10.28</td><td>2.18</td><td>0.63</td><td>0.52</td><td>2699</td><td>2324</td></tr><tr><td>475</td><td>-20.99</td><td>4.22</td><td>1.23</td><td>11.53</td><td>2.32</td><td>0.67</td><td>0.55</td><td>2625</td><td>2292</td></tr><tr><td>500</td><td>-25.56</td><td>4.88</td><td>1.42</td><td>12.85</td><td>2.45</td><td>0.71</td><td>0.58</td><td>2552</td><td>2260</td></tr><tr><td>525</td><td>-30.55</td><td>5.56</td><td>1.62</td><td>14.26</td><td>2.59</td><td>0.75</td><td>0.62</td><td>2480</td><td>2228</td></tr><tr><td>550</td><td>-35.98</td><td>6.25</td><td>1.82</td><td>15.75</td><td>2.73</td><td>0.80</td><td>0.65</td><td>2411</td><td>2196</td></tr><tr><td>575</td><td>-41.86</td><td>6.95</td><td>2.02</td><td>17.33</td><td>2.88</td><td>0.84</td><td>0.68</td><td>2342</td><td>2165</td></tr><tr><td>600</td><td>-48.20</td><td>7.67</td><td>2.23</td><td>19.00</td><td>3.02</td><td>0.88</td><td>0.72</td><td>2276</td><td>2134</td></tr><tr><td>625</td><td>-55.02</td><td>8.41</td><td>2.44</td><td>20.76</td><td>3.17</td><td>0.92</td><td>0.75</td><td>2211</td><td>2103</td></tr><tr><td>650</td><td>-62.33</td><td>9.16</td><td>2.66</td><td>22.60</td><td>3.32</td><td>0.97</td><td>0.79</td><td>2147</td><td>2073</td></tr><tr><td>675</td><td>-70.15</td><td>9.92</td><td>2.89</td><td>24.55</td><td>3.47</td><td>1.01</td><td>0.83</td><td>2085</td><td>2042</td></tr><tr><td>700</td><td>-78.49</td><td>10.71</td><td>3.11</td><td>26.58</td><td>3.63</td><td>1.05</td><td>0.86</td><td>2024</td><td>2012</td></tr><tr><td>725</td><td>-87.36</td><td>11.51</td><td>3.35</td><td>28.72</td><td>3.78</td><td>1.10</td><td>0.90</td><td>1964</td><td>1983</td></tr><tr><td>750</td><td>-96.79</td><td>12.32</td><td>3.58</td><td>30.95</td><td>3.94</td><td>1.15</td><td>0.94</td><td>1906</td><td>1953</td></tr><tr><td>775</td><td>-106.79</td><td>13.16</td><td>3.83</td><td>33.29</td><td>4.10</td><td>1.19</td><td>0.98</td><td>1850</td><td>1924</td></tr><tr><td>800</td><td>-117.37</td><td>14.01</td><td>4.07</td><td>35.73</td><td>4.26</td><td>1.24</td><td>1.02</td><td>1795</td><td>1895</td></tr></table></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="memtb, post: 2027089, member: 75451"] I see nothing wrong with your .338 WM, especially with your 800 yard self-imposed range limit! My wife is using the same scope magnification range.....but, her self-imposed limit is 500 yards. The following is a copy from a ballistics chart for my wife’s .338 WM. Granted these are hand loads, using a 300 yard zero, with approximate atmospheric conditions in the computation! I think you will see that it maintains acceptable trajectories, energy, velocities for expansion, and wind drift for an 800 yard cartridge! Some may disagree with my chart, but, I think that it’s a fair representation of the cartridges capabilities! As was once an expression used at amateur dirt track motorcycle racing.....”Run what you brung”! memtb [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Drag Function: G1 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.514 Bullet Weight: 225 gr Initial Velocity: 2950 fps Sight Height : 1.5 in Shooting Angle: 0°[/TD] [TD]Wind Speed: 10 mph Wind Angle: 90° Zero Range: 300 yd Chart Range: 800 yd Maximum Range: 7472 yd Step Size: 25 yd[/TD] [TD][U]Corrected For Atmosphere[/U] Adjusted BC: 0.642 Altitude: 7000 ft Barometric Pressure: 29.92 Hg Temperature: 40° F Relative Humidity: 40% Speed of Sound: 1096 fps[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Range[/TD] [TD]Elevation[/TD] [TD]Elevation[/TD] [TD]Elevation[/TD] [TD]Windage[/TD] [TD]Windage[/TD] [TD]Windage[/TD] [TD]Time[/TD] [TD]Energy[/TD] [TD]Vel[x+y][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD](yd)[/TD] [TD](in)[/TD] [TD](MOA)[/TD] [TD](MIL)[/TD] [TD](in)[/TD] [TD](MOA)[/TD] [TD](MIL)[/TD] [TD](s)[/TD] [TD](ft.lbf)[/TD] [TD](ft/s)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]0[/TD] [TD]-1.50[/TD] [TD]0.00[/TD] [TD]0.00[/TD] [TD]0.03[/TD] [TD]0.00[/TD] [TD]0.00[/TD] [TD]0.00[/TD] [TD]4349[/TD] [TD]2950[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]25[/TD] [TD]0.17[/TD] [TD]-0.66[/TD] [TD]-0.19[/TD] [TD]0.06[/TD] [TD]0.22[/TD] [TD]0.07[/TD] [TD]0.03[/TD] [TD]4239[/TD] [TD]2913[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]50[/TD] [TD]1.58[/TD] [TD]-3.01[/TD] [TD]-0.88[/TD] [TD]0.15[/TD] [TD]0.28[/TD] [TD]0.08[/TD] [TD]0.05[/TD] [TD]4132[/TD] [TD]2876[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]75[/TD] [TD]2.72[/TD] [TD]-3.46[/TD] [TD]-1.01[/TD] [TD]0.29[/TD] [TD]0.37[/TD] [TD]0.11[/TD] [TD]0.08[/TD] [TD]4028[/TD] [TD]2839[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]100[/TD] [TD]3.60[/TD] [TD]-3.43[/TD] [TD]-1.00[/TD] [TD]0.50[/TD] [TD]0.47[/TD] [TD]0.14[/TD] [TD]0.10[/TD] [TD]3926[/TD] [TD]2803[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]125[/TD] [TD]4.20[/TD] [TD]-3.20[/TD] [TD]-0.93[/TD] [TD]0.76[/TD] [TD]0.58[/TD] [TD]0.17[/TD] [TD]0.13[/TD] [TD]3825[/TD] [TD]2767[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]150[/TD] [TD]4.51[/TD] [TD]-2.87[/TD] [TD]-0.83[/TD] [TD]1.09[/TD] [TD]0.69[/TD] [TD]0.20[/TD] [TD]0.16[/TD] [TD]3727[/TD] [TD]2731[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]175[/TD] [TD]4.53[/TD] [TD]-2.47[/TD] [TD]-0.72[/TD] [TD]1.48[/TD] [TD]0.81[/TD] [TD]0.23[/TD] [TD]0.19[/TD] [TD]3632[/TD] [TD]2696[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]200[/TD] [TD]4.25[/TD] [TD]-2.03[/TD] [TD]-0.59[/TD] [TD]1.93[/TD] [TD]0.92[/TD] [TD]0.27[/TD] [TD]0.21[/TD] [TD]3538[/TD] [TD]2661[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]225[/TD] [TD]3.67[/TD] [TD]-1.56[/TD] [TD]-0.45[/TD] [TD]2.45[/TD] [TD]1.04[/TD] [TD]0.30[/TD] [TD]0.24[/TD] [TD]3446[/TD] [TD]2626[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]250[/TD] [TD]2.77[/TD] [TD]-1.06[/TD] [TD]-0.31[/TD] [TD]3.04[/TD] [TD]1.16[/TD] [TD]0.34[/TD] [TD]0.27[/TD] [TD]3355[/TD] [TD]2591[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]275[/TD] [TD]1.55[/TD] [TD]-0.54[/TD] [TD]-0.16[/TD] [TD]3.69[/TD] [TD]1.28[/TD] [TD]0.37[/TD] [TD]0.30[/TD] [TD]3267[/TD] [TD]2557[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]300[/TD] [TD]-0.01[/TD] [TD]0.00[/TD] [TD]0.00[/TD] [TD]4.42[/TD] [TD]1.41[/TD] [TD]0.41[/TD] [TD]0.33[/TD] [TD]3181[/TD] [TD]2523[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]325[/TD] [TD]-1.90[/TD] [TD]0.56[/TD] [TD]0.16[/TD] [TD]5.21[/TD] [TD]1.53[/TD] [TD]0.45[/TD] [TD]0.36[/TD] [TD]3096[/TD] [TD]2489[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]350[/TD] [TD]-4.15[/TD] [TD]1.13[/TD] [TD]0.33[/TD] [TD]6.07[/TD] [TD]1.66[/TD] [TD]0.48[/TD] [TD]0.39[/TD] [TD]3013[/TD] [TD]2456[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]375[/TD] [TD]-6.76[/TD] [TD]1.72[/TD] [TD]0.50[/TD] [TD]7.01[/TD] [TD]1.79[/TD] [TD]0.52[/TD] [TD]0.42[/TD] [TD]2932[/TD] [TD]2422[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]400[/TD] [TD]-9.73[/TD] [TD]2.32[/TD] [TD]0.68[/TD] [TD]8.03[/TD] [TD]1.92[/TD] [TD]0.56[/TD] [TD]0.45[/TD] [TD]2853[/TD] [TD]2389[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]425[/TD] [TD]-13.09[/TD] [TD]2.94[/TD] [TD]0.86[/TD] [TD]9.11[/TD] [TD]2.05[/TD] [TD]0.60[/TD] [TD]0.48[/TD] [TD]2775[/TD] [TD]2357[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]450[/TD] [TD]-16.84[/TD] [TD]3.57[/TD] [TD]1.04[/TD] [TD]10.28[/TD] [TD]2.18[/TD] [TD]0.63[/TD] [TD]0.52[/TD] [TD]2699[/TD] [TD]2324[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]475[/TD] [TD]-20.99[/TD] [TD]4.22[/TD] [TD]1.23[/TD] [TD]11.53[/TD] [TD]2.32[/TD] [TD]0.67[/TD] [TD]0.55[/TD] [TD]2625[/TD] [TD]2292[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]500[/TD] [TD]-25.56[/TD] [TD]4.88[/TD] [TD]1.42[/TD] [TD]12.85[/TD] [TD]2.45[/TD] [TD]0.71[/TD] [TD]0.58[/TD] [TD]2552[/TD] [TD]2260[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]525[/TD] [TD]-30.55[/TD] [TD]5.56[/TD] [TD]1.62[/TD] [TD]14.26[/TD] [TD]2.59[/TD] [TD]0.75[/TD] [TD]0.62[/TD] [TD]2480[/TD] [TD]2228[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]550[/TD] [TD]-35.98[/TD] [TD]6.25[/TD] [TD]1.82[/TD] [TD]15.75[/TD] [TD]2.73[/TD] [TD]0.80[/TD] [TD]0.65[/TD] [TD]2411[/TD] [TD]2196[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]575[/TD] [TD]-41.86[/TD] [TD]6.95[/TD] [TD]2.02[/TD] [TD]17.33[/TD] [TD]2.88[/TD] [TD]0.84[/TD] [TD]0.68[/TD] [TD]2342[/TD] [TD]2165[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]600[/TD] [TD]-48.20[/TD] [TD]7.67[/TD] [TD]2.23[/TD] [TD]19.00[/TD] [TD]3.02[/TD] [TD]0.88[/TD] [TD]0.72[/TD] [TD]2276[/TD] [TD]2134[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]625[/TD] [TD]-55.02[/TD] [TD]8.41[/TD] [TD]2.44[/TD] [TD]20.76[/TD] [TD]3.17[/TD] [TD]0.92[/TD] [TD]0.75[/TD] [TD]2211[/TD] [TD]2103[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]650[/TD] [TD]-62.33[/TD] [TD]9.16[/TD] [TD]2.66[/TD] [TD]22.60[/TD] [TD]3.32[/TD] [TD]0.97[/TD] [TD]0.79[/TD] [TD]2147[/TD] [TD]2073[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]675[/TD] [TD]-70.15[/TD] [TD]9.92[/TD] [TD]2.89[/TD] [TD]24.55[/TD] [TD]3.47[/TD] [TD]1.01[/TD] [TD]0.83[/TD] [TD]2085[/TD] [TD]2042[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]700[/TD] [TD]-78.49[/TD] [TD]10.71[/TD] [TD]3.11[/TD] [TD]26.58[/TD] [TD]3.63[/TD] [TD]1.05[/TD] [TD]0.86[/TD] [TD]2024[/TD] [TD]2012[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]725[/TD] [TD]-87.36[/TD] [TD]11.51[/TD] [TD]3.35[/TD] [TD]28.72[/TD] [TD]3.78[/TD] [TD]1.10[/TD] [TD]0.90[/TD] [TD]1964[/TD] [TD]1983[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]750[/TD] [TD]-96.79[/TD] [TD]12.32[/TD] [TD]3.58[/TD] [TD]30.95[/TD] [TD]3.94[/TD] [TD]1.15[/TD] [TD]0.94[/TD] [TD]1906[/TD] [TD]1953[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]775[/TD] [TD]-106.79[/TD] [TD]13.16[/TD] [TD]3.83[/TD] [TD]33.29[/TD] [TD]4.10[/TD] [TD]1.19[/TD] [TD]0.98[/TD] [TD]1850[/TD] [TD]1924[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]800[/TD] [TD]-117.37[/TD] [TD]14.01[/TD] [TD]4.07[/TD] [TD]35.73[/TD] [TD]4.26[/TD] [TD]1.24[/TD] [TD]1.02[/TD] [TD]1795[/TD] [TD]1895[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] 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