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5 or 3 shot group when determining ES/SD???
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<blockquote data-quote="MNbogboy" data-source="post: 625257" data-attributes="member: 18849"><p>Sleepyeddie pretty much summed up what I was tring to say in my post...I don't think it is anal at all to accumulate as much info as you can...The long string SD calculations are especially important for the competition shooter but I believe the day after day in any kind of weather statistics are the most important for the long range hunter...Especially that first cold bore shot...Unlike the competition shooter who has to depend on long strings and is able to compensate for differences as he goes, the long range hunter has to make that first one count....As was said the ambient temperature, elevation and other factors can be figured in any ballistics program but things like the differences in powder type and temp changes are not included in your off-the shelf programs....All the data collected in all weather types can be analyzed and reasonable hypothesis may be generated from this info...ie; "Oops, left that one laying on the hot bench too long".....This accumulated over time data</p><p>should tell you your maximum "do-able" range on any given day and maybe even tell you when you should not shoot.</p><p> </p><p>There is no substitute for actual field testing but the equipment we have today will help us move closer to our actual goals...</p><p> </p><p>It has been said in this post numerous times that the most accurate SD compilations are based on the largest number of instances and no one can argue that fact.....For me it is way more important to have a lot of "short string" information accumulated over time with variable conditions because that is how I am going to use it....The numbers themselves are actually all "relative" at that point and might not necessarily be exactly what others may think they should be....</p><p> </p><p>IMHO,</p><p>Randy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MNbogboy, post: 625257, member: 18849"] Sleepyeddie pretty much summed up what I was tring to say in my post...I don't think it is anal at all to accumulate as much info as you can...The long string SD calculations are especially important for the competition shooter but I believe the day after day in any kind of weather statistics are the most important for the long range hunter...Especially that first cold bore shot...Unlike the competition shooter who has to depend on long strings and is able to compensate for differences as he goes, the long range hunter has to make that first one count....As was said the ambient temperature, elevation and other factors can be figured in any ballistics program but things like the differences in powder type and temp changes are not included in your off-the shelf programs....All the data collected in all weather types can be analyzed and reasonable hypothesis may be generated from this info...ie; "Oops, left that one laying on the hot bench too long".....This accumulated over time data should tell you your maximum "do-able" range on any given day and maybe even tell you when you should not shoot. There is no substitute for actual field testing but the equipment we have today will help us move closer to our actual goals... It has been said in this post numerous times that the most accurate SD compilations are based on the largest number of instances and no one can argue that fact.....For me it is way more important to have a lot of "short string" information accumulated over time with variable conditions because that is how I am going to use it....The numbers themselves are actually all "relative" at that point and might not necessarily be exactly what others may think they should be.... IMHO, Randy [/QUOTE]
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