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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 348247" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Tyler,</p><p> </p><p>Not what I said at all. THey are not the same type of bullets. The rifle bullets were expanding bullets. Designed for heavy game but still expanding bullets. THe handgun bullets are made from a lead alloy and heat treated as hard as possible but not so hard that they will fracture on impact of heavy bone.</p><p> </p><p>The Soft points in impact will produce a mushroom shape, the hard case bullets have a very wide flat nose with sharp angle. Some of them look pretty darn near square on the bullet nose. This nose deforms very little and the large flat nose acts as a plow to push tissue aside as the bullet penetrated. One would think this would limit penetration but the fact that the bullet looses no energy in expansion results in deep penetration. On top of that, STRAIGHT penetration, very straight.</p><p> </p><p>If you look at the solid bullets for rifles, most will still be similiar to a round nose bullet profile or slightly modified profile with a small flat on the nose but still rounded edges. These bullets WILL out penetrate the handgun bullets but will not leavy much of a wound channel because they slip through tissue much easier.</p><p> </p><p>Big bore hard cast bullets penetrate and take down game MUCH better then anyone that has never witnessed them at work would ever believe. I have taken many whitetails and mule deer with my big bore handguns. I have taken three whitetails with my 50 AE and two with my 480 Ruger with loads listed above. These specific examples were shot broad side at 30 to 60 yards. Impact was just behind the shoulder so no major bone was contacted at all in impact or exit. On all of these examples, the deer fell in their tracks, literally, like they had been hit in the brain, why is this. Hydrostatic shock waves which are all the rage, certainly not, remember we are only talking about impact velocities around 1000 to 1100 fps. No support bones impacted, no central nervous system hits, why did they fall to the shots with only soft tissue shots.</p><p> </p><p>Simply put, the bullet and their design. Again, if you have not witnessed this its hard to believe but I assure you it is fact.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 348247, member: 10"] Tyler, Not what I said at all. THey are not the same type of bullets. The rifle bullets were expanding bullets. Designed for heavy game but still expanding bullets. THe handgun bullets are made from a lead alloy and heat treated as hard as possible but not so hard that they will fracture on impact of heavy bone. The Soft points in impact will produce a mushroom shape, the hard case bullets have a very wide flat nose with sharp angle. Some of them look pretty darn near square on the bullet nose. This nose deforms very little and the large flat nose acts as a plow to push tissue aside as the bullet penetrated. One would think this would limit penetration but the fact that the bullet looses no energy in expansion results in deep penetration. On top of that, STRAIGHT penetration, very straight. If you look at the solid bullets for rifles, most will still be similiar to a round nose bullet profile or slightly modified profile with a small flat on the nose but still rounded edges. These bullets WILL out penetrate the handgun bullets but will not leavy much of a wound channel because they slip through tissue much easier. Big bore hard cast bullets penetrate and take down game MUCH better then anyone that has never witnessed them at work would ever believe. I have taken many whitetails and mule deer with my big bore handguns. I have taken three whitetails with my 50 AE and two with my 480 Ruger with loads listed above. These specific examples were shot broad side at 30 to 60 yards. Impact was just behind the shoulder so no major bone was contacted at all in impact or exit. On all of these examples, the deer fell in their tracks, literally, like they had been hit in the brain, why is this. Hydrostatic shock waves which are all the rage, certainly not, remember we are only talking about impact velocities around 1000 to 1100 fps. No support bones impacted, no central nervous system hits, why did they fall to the shots with only soft tissue shots. Simply put, the bullet and their design. Again, if you have not witnessed this its hard to believe but I assure you it is fact. [/QUOTE]
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