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45-70 elk hunt - 250 SH or 300g Barnes TSX FN
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<blockquote data-quote="Dean2" data-source="post: 2911101" data-attributes="member: 26077"><p>It is relative. With open sights, the 45-70 is a very effective round to 250 yards, if your eyes are good enough. On moose and Elk, the kill zone is big enough that you can pretty much use the same point of aim from 25 to 200 yards, with a 150 yard zero.</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Trajectory</td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Input Data</td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Manufacturer:</td><td>Hornady</td><td>Description:</td><td>Round Nose</td></tr><tr><td>Caliber:</td><td>0.458 in</td><td>Weight:</td><td>350.0 gr</td></tr><tr><td>Ballistic Coefficient:</td><td>0.189 G1 (ASM)</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Muzzle Velocity:</td><td>1800.0 ft/s</td><td>Distance to Chronograph:</td><td>10.0 ft</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Sight Height:</td><td>0.50 in</td><td>Sight Offset:</td><td>0.00 in</td></tr><tr><td>Zero Height:</td><td>0.00 in</td><td>Zero Offset:</td><td>0.00 in</td></tr><tr><td>Windage:</td><td>0.000 MOA</td><td>Elevation:</td><td>0.000 MOA</td></tr><tr><td>Line Of Sight Angle:</td><td>0.0 deg</td><td>Cant Angle:</td><td>0.0 deg</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Wind Speed:</td><td>10.0 mph</td><td>Wind Angle:</td><td>90.0 deg</td></tr><tr><td>Target Speed:</td><td>0.0 mph</td><td>Target Angle:</td><td>90.0 deg</td></tr><tr><td>Target Height:</td><td>12.0 in</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Temperature:</td><td>59.0 °F</td><td>Pressure:</td><td>29.92 in Hg</td></tr><tr><td>Humidity:</td><td>0 %</td><td>Altitude:</td><td>0.0 ft</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Vital Zone Radius:</td><td>7.0 in</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Std. Atmosphere at Altitude:</td><td>No</td><td>Pressure is Corrected:</td><td>Yes</td></tr><tr><td>Zero at Max. Point Blank Range:</td><td>No</td><td>Target Relative Drops:</td><td>Yes</td></tr><tr><td>Mark Sound Barrier Crossing:</td><td>No</td><td>Include Extra Rows:</td><td>No</td></tr><tr><td>Column 1 Units:</td><td>1.00 in</td><td>Column 2 Units:</td><td>1.00 MOA</td></tr><tr><td>Round Output to Whole Numbers:</td><td>No</td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Output Data</td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Elevation:</td><td>9.878 MOA</td><td>Windage:</td><td>0.000 MOA</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Atmospheric Density:</td><td>0.07647 lb/ft³</td><td>Speed of Sound:</td><td>1116.4 ft/s</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Maximum PBR:</td><td>220 yd</td><td>Maximum PBR Zero:</td><td>188 yd</td></tr><tr><td>Range of Maximum Height:</td><td>102 yd</td><td>Energy at Maximum PBR:</td><td>1006.5 ft•lbs</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Sectional Density:</td><td>0.238 lb/in²</td><td></td><td></td></tr></table><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><th>Range</th><th>Drop</th><th>Drop</th><th>Windage</th><th>Windage</th><th>Velocity</th><th>Mach</th><th>Energy</th><th>Time</th><th>Lead</th><th>Lead</th></tr><tr><th>(yd)</th><th>(in)</th><th>(MOA)</th><th>(in)</th><th>(MOA)</th><th>(ft/s)</th><th>(none)</th><th>(ft•lbs)</th><th>(s)</th><th>(in)</th><th>(MOA)</th></tr><tr><td>Calculated Table</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>25</td><td>1.7</td><td>6.7</td><td>0.2</td><td>0.8</td><td>1716.6</td><td>1.538</td><td>2289.6</td><td>0.043</td><td>0.0</td><td>0.0</td></tr><tr><td>50</td><td>3.2</td><td>6.2</td><td>0.8</td><td>1.6</td><td>1624.1</td><td>1.455</td><td>2049.5</td><td>0.087</td><td>0.0</td><td>0.0</td></tr><tr><td>75</td><td>3.9</td><td>5.0</td><td>1.9</td><td>2.4</td><td>1536.0</td><td>1.376</td><td>1833.3</td><td>0.135</td><td>0.0</td><td>0.0</td></tr><tr><td>100</td><td>3.7</td><td>3.5</td><td>3.5</td><td>3.3</td><td>1452.8</td><td>1.301</td><td>1640.0</td><td>0.185</td><td>0.0</td><td>0.0</td></tr><tr><td>125</td><td>2.4</td><td>1.8</td><td>5.5</td><td>4.2</td><td>1375.0</td><td>1.232</td><td>1469.0</td><td>0.238</td><td>0.0</td><td>0.0</td></tr><tr><td>150</td><td>-0.0</td><td>-0.0</td><td>8.1</td><td>5.2</td><td>1303.0</td><td>1.167</td><td>1319.3</td><td>0.294</td><td>0.0</td><td>0.0</td></tr><tr><td>175</td><td>-3.7</td><td>-2.0</td><td>11.2</td><td>6.1</td><td>1237.6</td><td>1.109</td><td>1190.2</td><td>0.353</td><td>0.0</td><td>0.0</td></tr><tr><td>200</td><td>-8.8</td><td>-4.2</td><td>14.9</td><td>7.1</td><td>1179.4</td><td>1.056</td><td>1080.8</td><td>0.415</td><td>0.0</td><td>0.0</td></tr><tr><td>225</td><td>-15.5</td><td>-6.6</td><td>19.0</td><td>8.1</td><td>1128.6</td><td>1.011</td><td>989.7</td><td>0.480</td><td>0.0</td><td>0.0</td></tr><tr><td>250</td><td>-23.9</td><td>-9.1</td><td>23.7</td><td>9.1</td><td>1085.0</td><td>0.972</td><td>914.8</td><td>0.548</td><td>0.0</td><td>0.0</td></tr></table></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dean2, post: 2911101, member: 26077"] It is relative. With open sights, the 45-70 is a very effective round to 250 yards, if your eyes are good enough. On moose and Elk, the kill zone is big enough that you can pretty much use the same point of aim from 25 to 200 yards, with a 150 yard zero. [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Trajectory[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Input Data[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Manufacturer:[/TD] [TD]Hornady[/TD] [TD]Description:[/TD] [TD]Round Nose[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Caliber:[/TD] [TD]0.458 in[/TD] [TD]Weight:[/TD] [TD]350.0 gr[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ballistic Coefficient:[/TD] [TD]0.189 G1 (ASM)[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Muzzle Velocity:[/TD] [TD]1800.0 ft/s[/TD] [TD]Distance to Chronograph:[/TD] [TD]10.0 ft[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sight Height:[/TD] [TD]0.50 in[/TD] [TD]Sight Offset:[/TD] [TD]0.00 in[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Zero Height:[/TD] [TD]0.00 in[/TD] [TD]Zero Offset:[/TD] [TD]0.00 in[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Windage:[/TD] [TD]0.000 MOA[/TD] [TD]Elevation:[/TD] [TD]0.000 MOA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Line Of Sight Angle:[/TD] [TD]0.0 deg[/TD] [TD]Cant Angle:[/TD] [TD]0.0 deg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Wind Speed:[/TD] [TD]10.0 mph[/TD] [TD]Wind Angle:[/TD] [TD]90.0 deg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Target Speed:[/TD] [TD]0.0 mph[/TD] [TD]Target Angle:[/TD] [TD]90.0 deg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Target Height:[/TD] [TD]12.0 in[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Temperature:[/TD] [TD]59.0 °F[/TD] [TD]Pressure:[/TD] [TD]29.92 in Hg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Humidity:[/TD] [TD]0 %[/TD] [TD]Altitude:[/TD] [TD]0.0 ft[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Vital Zone Radius:[/TD] [TD]7.0 in[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Std. Atmosphere at Altitude:[/TD] [TD]No[/TD] [TD]Pressure is Corrected:[/TD] [TD]Yes[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Zero at Max. Point Blank Range:[/TD] [TD]No[/TD] [TD]Target Relative Drops:[/TD] [TD]Yes[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mark Sound Barrier Crossing:[/TD] [TD]No[/TD] [TD]Include Extra Rows:[/TD] [TD]No[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Column 1 Units:[/TD] [TD]1.00 in[/TD] [TD]Column 2 Units:[/TD] [TD]1.00 MOA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Round Output to Whole Numbers:[/TD] [TD]No[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Output Data[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Elevation:[/TD] [TD]9.878 MOA[/TD] [TD]Windage:[/TD] [TD]0.000 MOA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Atmospheric Density:[/TD] [TD]0.07647 lb/ft³[/TD] [TD]Speed of Sound:[/TD] [TD]1116.4 ft/s[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Maximum PBR:[/TD] [TD]220 yd[/TD] [TD]Maximum PBR Zero:[/TD] [TD]188 yd[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Range of Maximum Height:[/TD] [TD]102 yd[/TD] [TD]Energy at Maximum PBR:[/TD] [TD]1006.5 ft•lbs[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sectional Density:[/TD] [TD]0.238 lb/in²[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TH]Range[/TH] [TH]Drop[/TH] [TH]Drop[/TH] [TH]Windage[/TH] [TH]Windage[/TH] [TH]Velocity[/TH] [TH]Mach[/TH] [TH]Energy[/TH] [TH]Time[/TH] [TH]Lead[/TH] [TH]Lead[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH](yd)[/TH] [TH](in)[/TH] [TH](MOA)[/TH] [TH](in)[/TH] [TH](MOA)[/TH] [TH](ft/s)[/TH] [TH](none)[/TH] [TH](ft•lbs)[/TH] [TH](s)[/TH] [TH](in)[/TH] [TH](MOA)[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Calculated Table[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]25[/TD] [TD]1.7[/TD] [TD]6.7[/TD] [TD]0.2[/TD] [TD]0.8[/TD] [TD]1716.6[/TD] [TD]1.538[/TD] [TD]2289.6[/TD] [TD]0.043[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]50[/TD] [TD]3.2[/TD] [TD]6.2[/TD] [TD]0.8[/TD] [TD]1.6[/TD] [TD]1624.1[/TD] [TD]1.455[/TD] [TD]2049.5[/TD] [TD]0.087[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]75[/TD] [TD]3.9[/TD] [TD]5.0[/TD] [TD]1.9[/TD] [TD]2.4[/TD] [TD]1536.0[/TD] [TD]1.376[/TD] [TD]1833.3[/TD] [TD]0.135[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]100[/TD] [TD]3.7[/TD] [TD]3.5[/TD] [TD]3.5[/TD] [TD]3.3[/TD] [TD]1452.8[/TD] [TD]1.301[/TD] [TD]1640.0[/TD] [TD]0.185[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]125[/TD] [TD]2.4[/TD] [TD]1.8[/TD] [TD]5.5[/TD] [TD]4.2[/TD] [TD]1375.0[/TD] [TD]1.232[/TD] [TD]1469.0[/TD] [TD]0.238[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]150[/TD] [TD]-0.0[/TD] [TD]-0.0[/TD] [TD]8.1[/TD] [TD]5.2[/TD] [TD]1303.0[/TD] [TD]1.167[/TD] [TD]1319.3[/TD] [TD]0.294[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]175[/TD] [TD]-3.7[/TD] [TD]-2.0[/TD] [TD]11.2[/TD] [TD]6.1[/TD] [TD]1237.6[/TD] [TD]1.109[/TD] [TD]1190.2[/TD] [TD]0.353[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]200[/TD] [TD]-8.8[/TD] [TD]-4.2[/TD] [TD]14.9[/TD] [TD]7.1[/TD] [TD]1179.4[/TD] [TD]1.056[/TD] [TD]1080.8[/TD] [TD]0.415[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]225[/TD] [TD]-15.5[/TD] [TD]-6.6[/TD] [TD]19.0[/TD] [TD]8.1[/TD] [TD]1128.6[/TD] [TD]1.011[/TD] [TD]989.7[/TD] [TD]0.480[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]250[/TD] [TD]-23.9[/TD] [TD]-9.1[/TD] [TD]23.7[/TD] [TD]9.1[/TD] [TD]1085.0[/TD] [TD]0.972[/TD] [TD]914.8[/TD] [TD]0.548[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [TD]0.0[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/QUOTE]
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