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444 Marlin Pistol - Gathering ideas
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<blockquote data-quote="HarryN" data-source="post: 1146521" data-attributes="member: 69773"><p>Thanks for the input. Like the Wildley series of rounds, it is based on the .284 winchester case, which is convenient because of its widespread use. Lots of power in that round. It is also fairly short, so easy to carry around.</p><p></p><p>Two short comings in my mind:</p><p>- I cannot find any factory ammo that is CA legal - as in no lead. That makes is not much better than a pure wildcat for me. I am not saying that there is no one making it, but I have not found it. Hand loading is ok, but not for every round in an AR platform.</p><p>- It uses quite short bullets - essentially 44 mag type as far as I can tell, so poor BC. At that very short bullet length, no much mass to work with.</p><p></p><p>I am a big fan of wikipedia.org, but the fool who wrote the article on the .450 bushmaster decided that instead of saying "it uses 44 mag size diameter bullets", he tried to make it sound like a 45-70 and said it uses "standard .458 bullets - swaged down". I didn't think it through sufficiently and spent a lot of time looking for rifle bullets for this round. At least in the copper / no lead bullets, the correct place to look is "handgun bullets".</p><p></p><p>Cutting Edge appears to make one copper bullet that would work, probably GS Custom does as well, but it isn't quite as obvious. GS will make anything if you ask, so I am sure that it isn't a problem, still, I am hesitant to jump into a cartridge that has so few options to work with., at least here in CA.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HarryN, post: 1146521, member: 69773"] Thanks for the input. Like the Wildley series of rounds, it is based on the .284 winchester case, which is convenient because of its widespread use. Lots of power in that round. It is also fairly short, so easy to carry around. Two short comings in my mind: - I cannot find any factory ammo that is CA legal - as in no lead. That makes is not much better than a pure wildcat for me. I am not saying that there is no one making it, but I have not found it. Hand loading is ok, but not for every round in an AR platform. - It uses quite short bullets - essentially 44 mag type as far as I can tell, so poor BC. At that very short bullet length, no much mass to work with. I am a big fan of wikipedia.org, but the fool who wrote the article on the .450 bushmaster decided that instead of saying "it uses 44 mag size diameter bullets", he tried to make it sound like a 45-70 and said it uses "standard .458 bullets - swaged down". I didn't think it through sufficiently and spent a lot of time looking for rifle bullets for this round. At least in the copper / no lead bullets, the correct place to look is "handgun bullets". Cutting Edge appears to make one copper bullet that would work, probably GS Custom does as well, but it isn't quite as obvious. GS will make anything if you ask, so I am sure that it isn't a problem, still, I am hesitant to jump into a cartridge that has so few options to work with., at least here in CA. [/QUOTE]
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