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<blockquote data-quote="Lefty7mmstw" data-source="post: 2010415" data-attributes="member: 48043"><p>It was only really a 100 yard load with the 200 hdy. It was under moa at 100 but pooped out by the 200 yard line; typical of a stubby rn pill I suppose. rl12 is discontinued. Alliant is of no help to me as they only show rl7 (too fast burning). Accurate 2015 was good to us in the past for contenders in 30-30 and shows well for 200 gr pills in the 35rem. The Hodgdon site shows a number of powders that will take a 200 past 2100 fps from a 35 rem in a shorter barrel. Varget, ww748, I 3031, h4895, lvr... I would start with Varget, 3031, or h4895 and work up with a warmer primer like a wlr. You need to get things going rather quickly in the short barrels so I've always gravitated to warmer primers for less vel. loss. I was able to work up a load in my 243 with a 100 that was over 2750 fps safely with a 215. The same pistol would top out at 2600 fps with a standard primer.</p><p>The contender is a finicky weapon; you size your cases a bit too far and you will get backed out primers and poor case life. too little, and you will wear the heck out of the hingepin, have closing difficulty, and possibly poor accuracy as the round may not square up in the chamber. Turn your die down just past easily closing and lock it down. A contender isn't that weak but can only tolerate a certain amount of back-thrust before the lock gives way. That's why the 223 is acceptable but you need to get an encore to run a 30-06. Don't get too froggy with your pistol or you will loosen her up.</p><p>As to vel. in the 35 remington; you will see around 200 fps drop going from a 20-24" rifle barrel to a 14" pistol barrel. This is not an overbore round and doesn't really drop a heck of a lot from what I've seen. By comparison I've lost 300-400 fps in my 243 and 7-08 strikers I've had and 500 fps drop from my 22-250 striker barrel. My pops is running a 300wsm pistol that is dropping to the 2700's with a 165; he should be closer to 3200 fps. We ran a bunch of 30-30 barrels too many moons ago; the 10" pipes had trouble getting 2K fps from a 125; the 14" pipes were better but we quickly went over to Strikers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lefty7mmstw, post: 2010415, member: 48043"] It was only really a 100 yard load with the 200 hdy. It was under moa at 100 but pooped out by the 200 yard line; typical of a stubby rn pill I suppose. rl12 is discontinued. Alliant is of no help to me as they only show rl7 (too fast burning). Accurate 2015 was good to us in the past for contenders in 30-30 and shows well for 200 gr pills in the 35rem. The Hodgdon site shows a number of powders that will take a 200 past 2100 fps from a 35 rem in a shorter barrel. Varget, ww748, I 3031, h4895, lvr... I would start with Varget, 3031, or h4895 and work up with a warmer primer like a wlr. You need to get things going rather quickly in the short barrels so I've always gravitated to warmer primers for less vel. loss. I was able to work up a load in my 243 with a 100 that was over 2750 fps safely with a 215. The same pistol would top out at 2600 fps with a standard primer. The contender is a finicky weapon; you size your cases a bit too far and you will get backed out primers and poor case life. too little, and you will wear the heck out of the hingepin, have closing difficulty, and possibly poor accuracy as the round may not square up in the chamber. Turn your die down just past easily closing and lock it down. A contender isn't that weak but can only tolerate a certain amount of back-thrust before the lock gives way. That's why the 223 is acceptable but you need to get an encore to run a 30-06. Don't get too froggy with your pistol or you will loosen her up. As to vel. in the 35 remington; you will see around 200 fps drop going from a 20-24" rifle barrel to a 14" pistol barrel. This is not an overbore round and doesn't really drop a heck of a lot from what I've seen. By comparison I've lost 300-400 fps in my 243 and 7-08 strikers I've had and 500 fps drop from my 22-250 striker barrel. My pops is running a 300wsm pistol that is dropping to the 2700's with a 165; he should be closer to 3200 fps. We ran a bunch of 30-30 barrels too many moons ago; the 10" pipes had trouble getting 2K fps from a 125; the 14" pipes were better but we quickly went over to Strikers. [/QUOTE]
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