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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 500625" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>Glad you joined in Spanker. It's good to hear from others who are shooting the 177's. I only loaded up to 100 gr of H1000 and thought I saw initial signs of pressure with a little over 3400 fps, but I might have been wrong. I might try more. I was getting 3500 plus with RL17 so I went with that. The max load seems to be about 90.2 with 90.5 showing some excessive pressure. </p><p></p><p>As far as LR performance on game with the 177's, I feel confident they will work as well as any bullet and probably better. Terminal performance is Gerard Schultz's most important concern in producing hunting bullets. The meplat is larger (about.069 by my measurement) than the CE's (.050) and the Bergers (.046) This is to the detriment of BC, but good for reliable expansion. The CE's seem to perform very (according to Cutting Edge) well with .050 meplat, so I'm not too concerned about the 177's on that score. </p><p></p><p>It's interesting you say they should be seated to the lands because I was thinking the same thing but was told they were not picky about jump to the lands. To load these as a repeater in the 300 RUM, 700 action, I'll have to seat them with the forward driving band right down to the neck and trim the case to about 2.830. (BTW, you do know you cant seat the forward driving band into the neck.) This means with a min throat of about .110 they would be jumping maybe .090 to the lands. So I guess the 177's will have to shoot where they are seated with whatever the jump is if i want to fit them in the mag box. Their BC friendly form factor makes them somewhat inflexible and difficult to load with.</p><p></p><p>On the GS .338, I was told it was going to be 270 or 275 gr... we might be talking about different bullets.</p><p></p><p>LTLR, you might take a look at the CE 275's. They are advertised with a .76 BC @ 3000 fps, which is the same as the 300 SMK, which means they can be shot at higher velocity with the same BC, which means they'll reach farther with the same effectiveness. They do need a 9 twist. You could probably get them going real good out of a 338-378.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 500625, member: 11717"] Glad you joined in Spanker. It's good to hear from others who are shooting the 177's. I only loaded up to 100 gr of H1000 and thought I saw initial signs of pressure with a little over 3400 fps, but I might have been wrong. I might try more. I was getting 3500 plus with RL17 so I went with that. The max load seems to be about 90.2 with 90.5 showing some excessive pressure. As far as LR performance on game with the 177's, I feel confident they will work as well as any bullet and probably better. Terminal performance is Gerard Schultz's most important concern in producing hunting bullets. The meplat is larger (about.069 by my measurement) than the CE's (.050) and the Bergers (.046) This is to the detriment of BC, but good for reliable expansion. The CE's seem to perform very (according to Cutting Edge) well with .050 meplat, so I'm not too concerned about the 177's on that score. It's interesting you say they should be seated to the lands because I was thinking the same thing but was told they were not picky about jump to the lands. To load these as a repeater in the 300 RUM, 700 action, I'll have to seat them with the forward driving band right down to the neck and trim the case to about 2.830. (BTW, you do know you cant seat the forward driving band into the neck.) This means with a min throat of about .110 they would be jumping maybe .090 to the lands. So I guess the 177's will have to shoot where they are seated with whatever the jump is if i want to fit them in the mag box. Their BC friendly form factor makes them somewhat inflexible and difficult to load with. On the GS .338, I was told it was going to be 270 or 275 gr... we might be talking about different bullets. LTLR, you might take a look at the CE 275's. They are advertised with a .76 BC @ 3000 fps, which is the same as the 300 SMK, which means they can be shot at higher velocity with the same BC, which means they'll reach farther with the same effectiveness. They do need a 9 twist. You could probably get them going real good out of a 338-378. [/QUOTE]
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