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<blockquote data-quote="surgeon260" data-source="post: 1562419" data-attributes="member: 103874"><p>With your criteria, I would build a 338 Norma (or better yet, Norma Improved) with an absolute minimum of a 26" barrel. I wouldn't be able to justify a big magnum with anything less than 26" because you would be leaving a ton of velocity and unburnt powder on the table. FWIW, my 338 Norma Improved has a 28" barrel. Yes that makes for a long rifle with a can on the end, but for 1000 yard shooting rifle length is the least of my concerns. The 338 Norma works great in CIP length magazines. The Lapua, RUM, Edge, etc. will all require long Wyatt's boxes in order to get a long 300 grain bullet out where it wants to be.</p><p></p><p>For engaging 1000 yard targets, I would shoot the 300 grain Bergers or SMKs out of a 9-10 twist barrel. Those projectiles will be the most forgiving in the wind, which is the biggest challenge at extreme range. </p><p></p><p>I run my 338 Norma Improved suppressed with a TBAC 338 Ultra. It does a great job on recoil, but there is no free lunch. In a hunting weight rifle with 300 grain bullets going 2750+, it's going to pound you plain and simple. My 338 Norma Improved tips the scales around 22lb, and even with the can there is still a significant amount of recoil energy (I am pushing 300 Bergers around 2900). To truly feel comfortable taking a cold bore shot at 1000, minimum rifle weight (including scope and bipod) for me would be in the 15lb range. I simply can't shoot a lighter weight 338 with enough precision to take that shot. The torque on the rifle from a fast twist barrel and 300 grain bullets is a significant factor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="surgeon260, post: 1562419, member: 103874"] With your criteria, I would build a 338 Norma (or better yet, Norma Improved) with an absolute minimum of a 26" barrel. I wouldn't be able to justify a big magnum with anything less than 26" because you would be leaving a ton of velocity and unburnt powder on the table. FWIW, my 338 Norma Improved has a 28" barrel. Yes that makes for a long rifle with a can on the end, but for 1000 yard shooting rifle length is the least of my concerns. The 338 Norma works great in CIP length magazines. The Lapua, RUM, Edge, etc. will all require long Wyatt's boxes in order to get a long 300 grain bullet out where it wants to be. For engaging 1000 yard targets, I would shoot the 300 grain Bergers or SMKs out of a 9-10 twist barrel. Those projectiles will be the most forgiving in the wind, which is the biggest challenge at extreme range. I run my 338 Norma Improved suppressed with a TBAC 338 Ultra. It does a great job on recoil, but there is no free lunch. In a hunting weight rifle with 300 grain bullets going 2750+, it's going to pound you plain and simple. My 338 Norma Improved tips the scales around 22lb, and even with the can there is still a significant amount of recoil energy (I am pushing 300 Bergers around 2900). To truly feel comfortable taking a cold bore shot at 1000, minimum rifle weight (including scope and bipod) for me would be in the 15lb range. I simply can't shoot a lighter weight 338 with enough precision to take that shot. The torque on the rifle from a fast twist barrel and 300 grain bullets is a significant factor. [/QUOTE]
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