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308 subsonic hunting bullet
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<blockquote data-quote="bengineer" data-source="post: 2385611" data-attributes="member: 36951"><p>I have taken 5 whitey does with 308 subs. All were with 220 Matchkings in a 10 twist with Trailboss. None went more than 25 yards and all were recovered readily, though not all had bleeding wounds. All shots were less than 30 yards from a ground blind.</p><p></p><p>Study up on what the WW1 Brits figured out about tumbling bullets. More or less, find the distance limit of stability of your bullet, and stay within that. The long bullet in a slow-ish twist will upset its nice flight shape and tumble at the slightest hint of interference, such as grass, branches, hair, ribs, meat, etc. The 220 acted like a two blade broadhead does; I was surprised and impressed.</p><p></p><p>Don't expect any bullet to expand as we think of bullet expansion. Sufficient velocity provides the forces necessary to overcome the strength and thickness of the metals in your bullet. You can weaken things manually, such as mentioned above with drilling hollow points, or you can do it by design, as in a hollow point cast bullet. Then you can fiddle with your cast bullet alloy, or not alloy and shoot pure lead. At 1000fps, a pure lead 308 bullet will certainly mushroom, but you are still limited in energy delivery by the kinetic energy available to impart. So, you are back to the broadhead theory: cut as deep as inertia will take you and make the proper impact.</p><p></p><p>I have also shot 7 bison, all 1100 pound heifers, with subsonic 308. These were 147 ball and Trailboss. All head shots. Properly placed, these little bullets are effective at stopping brain function. Shot into sinus, they just create problems, sometimes taking several hits to connect with brain or brainstem. Bison in a group do not respond calmly to one of their own bleeding from the face, nor does the rancher who will be the one repairing fences and trying to collect his investment. </p><p></p><p>One must be on his game using less than sufficient projectiles, as an archer would need to be with field points on big game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bengineer, post: 2385611, member: 36951"] I have taken 5 whitey does with 308 subs. All were with 220 Matchkings in a 10 twist with Trailboss. None went more than 25 yards and all were recovered readily, though not all had bleeding wounds. All shots were less than 30 yards from a ground blind. Study up on what the WW1 Brits figured out about tumbling bullets. More or less, find the distance limit of stability of your bullet, and stay within that. The long bullet in a slow-ish twist will upset its nice flight shape and tumble at the slightest hint of interference, such as grass, branches, hair, ribs, meat, etc. The 220 acted like a two blade broadhead does; I was surprised and impressed. Don't expect any bullet to expand as we think of bullet expansion. Sufficient velocity provides the forces necessary to overcome the strength and thickness of the metals in your bullet. You can weaken things manually, such as mentioned above with drilling hollow points, or you can do it by design, as in a hollow point cast bullet. Then you can fiddle with your cast bullet alloy, or not alloy and shoot pure lead. At 1000fps, a pure lead 308 bullet will certainly mushroom, but you are still limited in energy delivery by the kinetic energy available to impart. So, you are back to the broadhead theory: cut as deep as inertia will take you and make the proper impact. I have also shot 7 bison, all 1100 pound heifers, with subsonic 308. These were 147 ball and Trailboss. All head shots. Properly placed, these little bullets are effective at stopping brain function. Shot into sinus, they just create problems, sometimes taking several hits to connect with brain or brainstem. Bison in a group do not respond calmly to one of their own bleeding from the face, nor does the rancher who will be the one repairing fences and trying to collect his investment. One must be on his game using less than sufficient projectiles, as an archer would need to be with field points on big game. [/QUOTE]
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