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308 LC 12 brass - primed: OK it is UGLY - BUYER beware
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<blockquote data-quote="westcliffe01" data-source="post: 797191" data-attributes="member: 35183"><p>SidecarFlip, given the fact that I have designed and built swaging machines that can swage stainless steel tubing up to a little more than 14" in diameter to within 0.001-2" (individual target size that may vary up to nearly 1/2" in overall diameter), I am somewhat biased about swaging materials if I can, instead of cutting them.</p><p></p><p>I just got my die in the mail yesterday from the folks at CH4D reloading in Sandusky OH. Just about 15 minutes ago, I finished running all the crimped brass through it. I will admit that after the first couple of cases, I took the mandrel out the die and polished it to a mirror finish with some diamond compound I had on hand. Finish is important on any metal displacing piece of hardware. It took just a couple of seconds per case to swage. The way their die is setup you load the case on top of the die, so outside the press itself. That alone makes the process faster since you don't have to negotiate the confines of the press. Mine is a Hornady Lock N Load aluminum framed press, so its not very big/spacious.</p><p></p><p>I was surprised how much the tightness of the pockets varied. About 10% had a very tight pocket and it took a lot more force to swage.</p><p></p><p>Now I just have to do the length trim and find some powder. And wait for my savage 308 to arrive at my FFL...</p><p></p><p>What do you have against collet dies ? What could be more consistent than clamping brass against a polished steel rod of the appropriate diameter ? My full length dies produce necks that are tapered. The neck is always smaller at the bottom near the shoulder than at the top at the mouth. To each his own..</p><p></p><p>Are you suggesting something might let go from the pie pan annealing ? It seems that NOT annealing might be more prone to letting the flame out where it should not, as opposed to imperfect annealing.</p><p></p><p>I would like an automated annealing setup, but that will have to wait until my savings recover...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="westcliffe01, post: 797191, member: 35183"] SidecarFlip, given the fact that I have designed and built swaging machines that can swage stainless steel tubing up to a little more than 14" in diameter to within 0.001-2" (individual target size that may vary up to nearly 1/2" in overall diameter), I am somewhat biased about swaging materials if I can, instead of cutting them. I just got my die in the mail yesterday from the folks at CH4D reloading in Sandusky OH. Just about 15 minutes ago, I finished running all the crimped brass through it. I will admit that after the first couple of cases, I took the mandrel out the die and polished it to a mirror finish with some diamond compound I had on hand. Finish is important on any metal displacing piece of hardware. It took just a couple of seconds per case to swage. The way their die is setup you load the case on top of the die, so outside the press itself. That alone makes the process faster since you don't have to negotiate the confines of the press. Mine is a Hornady Lock N Load aluminum framed press, so its not very big/spacious. I was surprised how much the tightness of the pockets varied. About 10% had a very tight pocket and it took a lot more force to swage. Now I just have to do the length trim and find some powder. And wait for my savage 308 to arrive at my FFL... What do you have against collet dies ? What could be more consistent than clamping brass against a polished steel rod of the appropriate diameter ? My full length dies produce necks that are tapered. The neck is always smaller at the bottom near the shoulder than at the top at the mouth. To each his own.. Are you suggesting something might let go from the pie pan annealing ? It seems that NOT annealing might be more prone to letting the flame out where it should not, as opposed to imperfect annealing. I would like an automated annealing setup, but that will have to wait until my savings recover... [/QUOTE]
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