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300 wsm build for european games, selective hunting in Italy
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<blockquote data-quote="simone" data-source="post: 2780981" data-attributes="member: 103268"><p>Thanks man for the time you took for this reply. Very informative. As far as the caliber, I may be wrong but i am start thinking people tend to overthink caliber/hunted game combination. Yeah, it's funny to find the minimum sufficient caliber for a specific task but why you should do that? Of course, taking a 30 pounds 50 bmg hunting is nonsense but also taking a 223 hunting deer for me is not very practical. Why you should do that. In europe we have another kind of craziness that got totally out of hand and I will make a thread about this in the future because it can be informative: more traditional hunters absolutely care about the aesthetic of the dead body of the animal. A baseball sized hole in the chest is not gonna make you lose more meat than a ping pong sized hole, right? Ok, if you post a pic on an italian hunting forum with a baseball sized hole in a roe you will get insulted by some members. They even look for harder bullets to make them discharge the energy on the ground without damaging the animal. That's delusional. So they use maybe 7x64 for shooting a roe with the hardest ball they can find producing the damage of a 22 mag with expansive bullets. And they really care about the aesthetic of the dead body of the animal, it must "look good", independently by the useless sufferings they caused to the animal or to the equal amount of meat they get from that animal. Same rigidity for shot placement: if you say you shoot in the shoulder in specific occasions (when you need an instant drop like when dark is coming, a precipice or a property where you can't hunt is close by, very thick brush where finding the animal would be difficult) you get insulted because for some reasons they think you are disrespecting the animal.</p><p></p><p>Custom rifles are not made by such famous and respected manufacturer here. I mean, my country has a great tradition of making firearms but custom rifles are not a thing here, especially for hunting. Also the market is much smaller. So the choice is limited and i trust more a big manufacturer. We can get gunwerks and kelblys btw.</p><p></p><p>I thought about a more powerful scope but why specifically you suggest it other than the possibility to stretching distances even more? </p><p></p><p>Shooting past 600 yards at pur games becomes tricky also because they are much smaller than a elk or a moose and i don't feel confident at those ranges. And especially i can get closer!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="simone, post: 2780981, member: 103268"] Thanks man for the time you took for this reply. Very informative. As far as the caliber, I may be wrong but i am start thinking people tend to overthink caliber/hunted game combination. Yeah, it's funny to find the minimum sufficient caliber for a specific task but why you should do that? Of course, taking a 30 pounds 50 bmg hunting is nonsense but also taking a 223 hunting deer for me is not very practical. Why you should do that. In europe we have another kind of craziness that got totally out of hand and I will make a thread about this in the future because it can be informative: more traditional hunters absolutely care about the aesthetic of the dead body of the animal. A baseball sized hole in the chest is not gonna make you lose more meat than a ping pong sized hole, right? Ok, if you post a pic on an italian hunting forum with a baseball sized hole in a roe you will get insulted by some members. They even look for harder bullets to make them discharge the energy on the ground without damaging the animal. That's delusional. So they use maybe 7x64 for shooting a roe with the hardest ball they can find producing the damage of a 22 mag with expansive bullets. And they really care about the aesthetic of the dead body of the animal, it must "look good", independently by the useless sufferings they caused to the animal or to the equal amount of meat they get from that animal. Same rigidity for shot placement: if you say you shoot in the shoulder in specific occasions (when you need an instant drop like when dark is coming, a precipice or a property where you can't hunt is close by, very thick brush where finding the animal would be difficult) you get insulted because for some reasons they think you are disrespecting the animal. Custom rifles are not made by such famous and respected manufacturer here. I mean, my country has a great tradition of making firearms but custom rifles are not a thing here, especially for hunting. Also the market is much smaller. So the choice is limited and i trust more a big manufacturer. We can get gunwerks and kelblys btw. I thought about a more powerful scope but why specifically you suggest it other than the possibility to stretching distances even more? Shooting past 600 yards at pur games becomes tricky also because they are much smaller than a elk or a moose and i don't feel confident at those ranges. And especially i can get closer! [/QUOTE]
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