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<blockquote data-quote="FURMAN" data-source="post: 1499320" data-attributes="member: 26535"><p>I have used 215 Bergers in 4 different rifles. I have NOT found them to be seating depth insensitive as others have stated. I can show you load development with all four rifles where seating depth testing changed from over 2moa to well under .5 moa. You need to do seating depth testing. I would discourage Bergers method as I already stated I have not found these huge windows they suggest. I personally would do at the lands, -10,-20,-30,-40,-50. I would expect one of them to be much better than what you are seeing. The above post stating seating depth testing is a waste is absolutely as far from the truth as you can get. I have developed loads for well over 30 rifles most with multiple loads and have NEVER found a single load not sensitive to seating depth. His suggestion that a 300 win with a 215 is not adequate for shooting elk at 1000 yards is completely false as well. Obviously your shooting and wind reading skills will come into play but the 215 launched at 2850 plus will be more than plenty at any altitude. The 215 Berger is absolutely impressive on game. I will also disagree with his statement about changing until you find a bullet that will shoot without actually finishing load development. I have never found a bullet that will not shoot with the proper powder charge and seating depth. I only use what I would consider premium, known for accuracy, bullets such as Berger, Amax, ELDM, Sierra Match Kings. Pick the components, as you have, and stick with them until they just will not shoot. As I already stated I doubt that will happen. If you keep swapping components you most likely will end up chasing your tail. Advising to swap components before spending the necessary time to see they aren't going to work just does not make sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FURMAN, post: 1499320, member: 26535"] I have used 215 Bergers in 4 different rifles. I have NOT found them to be seating depth insensitive as others have stated. I can show you load development with all four rifles where seating depth testing changed from over 2moa to well under .5 moa. You need to do seating depth testing. I would discourage Bergers method as I already stated I have not found these huge windows they suggest. I personally would do at the lands, -10,-20,-30,-40,-50. I would expect one of them to be much better than what you are seeing. The above post stating seating depth testing is a waste is absolutely as far from the truth as you can get. I have developed loads for well over 30 rifles most with multiple loads and have NEVER found a single load not sensitive to seating depth. His suggestion that a 300 win with a 215 is not adequate for shooting elk at 1000 yards is completely false as well. Obviously your shooting and wind reading skills will come into play but the 215 launched at 2850 plus will be more than plenty at any altitude. The 215 Berger is absolutely impressive on game. I will also disagree with his statement about changing until you find a bullet that will shoot without actually finishing load development. I have never found a bullet that will not shoot with the proper powder charge and seating depth. I only use what I would consider premium, known for accuracy, bullets such as Berger, Amax, ELDM, Sierra Match Kings. Pick the components, as you have, and stick with them until they just will not shoot. As I already stated I doubt that will happen. If you keep swapping components you most likely will end up chasing your tail. Advising to swap components before spending the necessary time to see they aren't going to work just does not make sense. [/QUOTE]
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