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<blockquote data-quote="remingtonman_25_06" data-source="post: 6464" data-attributes="member: 1403"><p>The_Mountaineer</p><p></p><p>I remember seeing the name over on shooters. I dont really like that place anymore, I very rarely post over there anymore. They just aren't that friendly.</p><p>Thank you for providing that web-site with the information. The reason I used the 1000 lbs for deer and 1500 lbs for elk, and 2000fps velocity is because if I remember correctly, thats what Col. Townsend Whelan I believe came up with. However, I have seen more than one muley doe fall to 1 shot out of .222 and .223 at 300 yards and they drop instantly. They didn't always die, but they dropped in there tracks. I later found out they only have about 350lbs of energy. So much for the 1000 lb rule huh? I have always went by that when trying to come up with a new gun for the intended purpose. Like my 25/06 for example, I did tons of homework on that and the .270, but I found the 25/06 would get me out to 600 yards for deer with a 115g B-tip with less kick and more availability of use for coyotes which I also shoot a lot of at long range. Anyways back to original post. I have right now $400 saved up and at a local sport store they have the older Rem Sendero, non fluted, blued on sale for $600. They also have one in a 7 Rem Mag. I have looked at all the possibilities of the 7 Mag but they dont come close to a .300 for LR elk or bears from what I can see. I am going to put the .300 Win Sendaro on lay away tonight probly to make sure it is still halfway mine before someone else snatches it up. They only have 1 left. If I decided to change my mind, I can simply take it off layway and get my $400 back. I have a harris bi-pod waiting. Also I bought a brand new Leupold VX 2 about 2 months ago. It is the 6-18 Target, matte, fine duplex. I also have a Nikon 800 Laser Rangefinder which I soon am going to upgrade to the Leica 1200. I am pretty set for shots out to 600 already. Just need to work on the load. I would be interested in staying in contact with you about your 7 Ultra and also sharing with you probly the .300 Win out of the sendaro. This will be the first .300 I have tested with a 26" barrel. It should add anywhere from 50-100fps. I am hoping to shoot a 200g at a max velocity of 3050fps. Should be hell on whatever I hit with it at my range. </p><p></p><p>Jerry</p><p></p><p>Thanks for that awesome .308" 240g SMK. I received it on last Thursday. Sorry for the late Thank you. I dont think I would use a 165g SST for elk. Remember, this is strictly elk/bear. I already have my trusty 25/06 for any deer I will encounter. I am looking for no smaller bullet than 180g because I want high BC for added accuracy at long range, and barrel life is a little concern with me also. I want to be able to practice about every other day with this rifle on milk jugs at 500 and 600 yards. Doing that my barrel will probly be out in 2 years anyways. </p><p>I like your idea of impact velocity at 1500fps. That should put the .300 a decent legimate 1000 yard cartridge. NOt that I will shoot that far, but its nice to know. My funds are kinda limited for the time I have to get prepared. I drew a big bull tag for where I hunt and Season starts mid-late october. I want to have my gun/load/practice all in before then to reliably hit at 600 yards. Maybe in a couple years I will get out to 700 yards. Right now I have $400. I want to get a rifle before this month is over. That would give me about 2 months to play with my new gun. Thanks for all the information guys. You really help out a lot over here for LR hunting. As of right now, im 95% on my Sendero in .300 Win and shooting the 200g SMK. I will definately let you all know how it performs. </p><p></p><p>On a side note, I havne't bought a new gun in over 2 years when I started getting into LR hunting and ballistics. I never did break in my 25/06 barrel and it has never ever given me accuracy or cleaning problems. But, I want to do this .300 right and do a proper break in. Can a few of you experts please share a couple ways you know how to break in a barrel? It would be most appreciative to hear from the LR hunters as thats what I am buying this gun for. Thanks a lot in advance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="remingtonman_25_06, post: 6464, member: 1403"] The_Mountaineer I remember seeing the name over on shooters. I dont really like that place anymore, I very rarely post over there anymore. They just aren't that friendly. Thank you for providing that web-site with the information. The reason I used the 1000 lbs for deer and 1500 lbs for elk, and 2000fps velocity is because if I remember correctly, thats what Col. Townsend Whelan I believe came up with. However, I have seen more than one muley doe fall to 1 shot out of .222 and .223 at 300 yards and they drop instantly. They didn't always die, but they dropped in there tracks. I later found out they only have about 350lbs of energy. So much for the 1000 lb rule huh? I have always went by that when trying to come up with a new gun for the intended purpose. Like my 25/06 for example, I did tons of homework on that and the .270, but I found the 25/06 would get me out to 600 yards for deer with a 115g B-tip with less kick and more availability of use for coyotes which I also shoot a lot of at long range. Anyways back to original post. I have right now $400 saved up and at a local sport store they have the older Rem Sendero, non fluted, blued on sale for $600. They also have one in a 7 Rem Mag. I have looked at all the possibilities of the 7 Mag but they dont come close to a .300 for LR elk or bears from what I can see. I am going to put the .300 Win Sendaro on lay away tonight probly to make sure it is still halfway mine before someone else snatches it up. They only have 1 left. If I decided to change my mind, I can simply take it off layway and get my $400 back. I have a harris bi-pod waiting. Also I bought a brand new Leupold VX 2 about 2 months ago. It is the 6-18 Target, matte, fine duplex. I also have a Nikon 800 Laser Rangefinder which I soon am going to upgrade to the Leica 1200. I am pretty set for shots out to 600 already. Just need to work on the load. I would be interested in staying in contact with you about your 7 Ultra and also sharing with you probly the .300 Win out of the sendaro. This will be the first .300 I have tested with a 26" barrel. It should add anywhere from 50-100fps. I am hoping to shoot a 200g at a max velocity of 3050fps. Should be hell on whatever I hit with it at my range. Jerry Thanks for that awesome .308" 240g SMK. I received it on last Thursday. Sorry for the late Thank you. I dont think I would use a 165g SST for elk. Remember, this is strictly elk/bear. I already have my trusty 25/06 for any deer I will encounter. I am looking for no smaller bullet than 180g because I want high BC for added accuracy at long range, and barrel life is a little concern with me also. I want to be able to practice about every other day with this rifle on milk jugs at 500 and 600 yards. Doing that my barrel will probly be out in 2 years anyways. I like your idea of impact velocity at 1500fps. That should put the .300 a decent legimate 1000 yard cartridge. NOt that I will shoot that far, but its nice to know. My funds are kinda limited for the time I have to get prepared. I drew a big bull tag for where I hunt and Season starts mid-late october. I want to have my gun/load/practice all in before then to reliably hit at 600 yards. Maybe in a couple years I will get out to 700 yards. Right now I have $400. I want to get a rifle before this month is over. That would give me about 2 months to play with my new gun. Thanks for all the information guys. You really help out a lot over here for LR hunting. As of right now, im 95% on my Sendero in .300 Win and shooting the 200g SMK. I will definately let you all know how it performs. On a side note, I havne't bought a new gun in over 2 years when I started getting into LR hunting and ballistics. I never did break in my 25/06 barrel and it has never ever given me accuracy or cleaning problems. But, I want to do this .300 right and do a proper break in. Can a few of you experts please share a couple ways you know how to break in a barrel? It would be most appreciative to hear from the LR hunters as thats what I am buying this gun for. Thanks a lot in advance. [/QUOTE]
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