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300 win mag and 215 hybrid load issues
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<blockquote data-quote="stomp442" data-source="post: 990386" data-attributes="member: 70571"><p>Savage 111 action</p><p>heavy duty lug </p><p>trued barrel nut</p><p>26" McGowen #5 contour stainless match 10 twist barrel with brake</p><p>pillar and glass bedding</p><p>tuned acutrigger at a crisp 2 pounds.</p><p></p><p>New barrel and new build. Been working on this for a couple weeks now using H1000 and H4831 powders as that is what i have and Federal magnum primers. Bullets are seated to mag length as this will be a carry around hunting rifle. The barrel is free floated as well as the tang, scope is a Leupold mark IV and checked for proper function and is secured with burris signature zee rings on weaver bases. All screws are torqued to spec and remain tight. The issue i am having is the thing just wont shoot. Best i have been able to get is about a 2" group at 200 yards and 10" at 600. I have worked up in half grain increments from about 2 grains under max loads in the berger manual trying to find a good node. I start seeing flattened primers at 73 grains with both powders. H1000 gives me a top velocity at 2815fps with 73 grains and H4831 gives me 2940fps with 73 grains and is actually my best load so far with a standard deviation of only 7.2. I have tried moving up another grain but thigs get really erratic and i start to get a little heavy bolt lift. I am calling max load for this rifle at 73 grains.</p><p></p><p>So far i have 150 rounds thru the barrel and i have tried and checked everything i can think of to get this thing to shoot good. I have another box of the 215s and i would really like to stick with this bullet to maximize the potential of this cartridge. I know there are quite a few of you here on this site that have experience with this combination and i am hoping to gain a little insight into what may be wrong. My last resort will be to back it off and see if i can find a low node or switch to a different bullet. I can get my hands on some 168 amaxs, 208 Amaxs and 190 Bergers here local but i really dont want to switch bullets and powder well thats near impossible to find around here. The only other powders that i have on the shelf that may be suitable is reloader 17 and H430 but those will be better suited for the 168s if i am forced to go that way. Thanks in advance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stomp442, post: 990386, member: 70571"] Savage 111 action heavy duty lug trued barrel nut 26" McGowen #5 contour stainless match 10 twist barrel with brake pillar and glass bedding tuned acutrigger at a crisp 2 pounds. New barrel and new build. Been working on this for a couple weeks now using H1000 and H4831 powders as that is what i have and Federal magnum primers. Bullets are seated to mag length as this will be a carry around hunting rifle. The barrel is free floated as well as the tang, scope is a Leupold mark IV and checked for proper function and is secured with burris signature zee rings on weaver bases. All screws are torqued to spec and remain tight. The issue i am having is the thing just wont shoot. Best i have been able to get is about a 2" group at 200 yards and 10" at 600. I have worked up in half grain increments from about 2 grains under max loads in the berger manual trying to find a good node. I start seeing flattened primers at 73 grains with both powders. H1000 gives me a top velocity at 2815fps with 73 grains and H4831 gives me 2940fps with 73 grains and is actually my best load so far with a standard deviation of only 7.2. I have tried moving up another grain but thigs get really erratic and i start to get a little heavy bolt lift. I am calling max load for this rifle at 73 grains. So far i have 150 rounds thru the barrel and i have tried and checked everything i can think of to get this thing to shoot good. I have another box of the 215s and i would really like to stick with this bullet to maximize the potential of this cartridge. I know there are quite a few of you here on this site that have experience with this combination and i am hoping to gain a little insight into what may be wrong. My last resort will be to back it off and see if i can find a low node or switch to a different bullet. I can get my hands on some 168 amaxs, 208 Amaxs and 190 Bergers here local but i really dont want to switch bullets and powder well thats near impossible to find around here. The only other powders that i have on the shelf that may be suitable is reloader 17 and H430 but those will be better suited for the 168s if i am forced to go that way. Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]
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