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280ai vs 7mm rem mag?
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<blockquote data-quote="johnlittletree" data-source="post: 1431550" data-attributes="member: 105653"><p>Well first Elk are not hard to drop I have used 25-06, 308, 300 Win Mag, 12ga. Slug and 30-06 to drop Elk. Lung shots have never failed me on Elk. The trick with Elk is being patient and being willing to stalk until you get the shot you want. I have no real experience with Moose myself but have seen plenty of them killed. With the Moose every time it was a matter of a rampaging Moose not someone out stalking one on a hunt. That meant close in fast movement and terrible angles in terms of trying to get a good shot. So I will let someone else with actual hunting experience with a Moose answer that. That said they did not go down easy like an Elk.</p><p></p><p>I do not know if I would go the AI route on a hunting rifle how many rounds do you want to put through it just fire forming brass? In my mind, a hunting rifle should give you a lifetime of accurate use, unlike a competition rig where you expect to regularly wear out barrels.</p><p></p><p>The 280 is basically a 7mm-06 if that helps you think about the cartridges potential. Conceptually think of the 7mm Rem Mag as a .338 Win Mag necked down to 7mm. Are you getting an idea know what each one brings tot he table in terms bolt face, cartridge length and diameter, powder capacity, overall length etc???? Put another way it would be like comparing the 30-06 to a 300 Win Mag, in this case, make neck them both down and drop a 7mm on top. On Paper it looks like a huge difference but on game, it is not much difference at all. Obviously, the case with the most powder is going to spit the bullet out at higher velocity which makes for a flatter trajectory. </p><p></p><p>You have to know how far away you plan to shoot. You need to pick a bullet that will both expand and hold together at the speed it will be going when it hits the animal. This is going to be a big deal between these two. Personally, I do not like to shoot at game more than 600m away if I can help it. You might feel confident taking a 800m shot my brother in law might take a 900m shot. Ideally, you would want to use a bullet that matches the cartridge and the range you intend to hunt. </p><p></p><p>Are you a recoil sensitive shooter? I am 6 foot 1 and look like I played football for the NFL! I can put 60 Magnum rounds down range from a bench and not even have a bruise. If that is not you though less recoil makes it far easier to take precision shots. Dreading the recoil never helps anyone shoot straight! </p><p></p><p>When I am hunting Elk I am horse back some guys like quads. If I had to walk the entire time I would want to have a fairly light rifle. My 280 is just that. It is 1.25 at the receiver for maybe 2-3 inches then it tapers down to .630 at the muzzle. If I had to walk all day up and down steep terrain that is what I want with me. The stock is a fairly light Richards Microfit in Tiger Maple. All of my magnums have much heavier barrels and the stock's tend to be beefier and my optics are beefier. Just depends on if you have a beast of burden carrying your dead weight or if you are carrying it! </p><p></p><p>Last but not least what stage of life are you in? Are you still new to magnums and like all things faster and heavier or are you old enough to be past that stage? If you want a magnum get a magnum so you have no regrets! If you do not need a magnum and do not want to put up with the quirks of a magnum get the 280! </p><p></p><p>Either way do what is going to make you happiest with your purchase because either will work just fine. Never over think your purchases unless you are on a tight budget and have to look far down the road. Too many people let other people talk them into buying something they do not need or want and they regret it later! </p><p></p><p>Oh and if you do intend to hunt in Africa any rifle you take has to be able to shoot ammunition that has the correct headstamp on the brass. You also need to be able to purchase factory ammo in that country. Something like a 280AI would not be doable in some countries at all. It is harder to bring ammo with you traveling than it is to bring your rifle. So well established SAE and MEtric cartridges are fine but Wildcats normaly a no-no each country is different!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="johnlittletree, post: 1431550, member: 105653"] Well first Elk are not hard to drop I have used 25-06, 308, 300 Win Mag, 12ga. Slug and 30-06 to drop Elk. Lung shots have never failed me on Elk. The trick with Elk is being patient and being willing to stalk until you get the shot you want. I have no real experience with Moose myself but have seen plenty of them killed. With the Moose every time it was a matter of a rampaging Moose not someone out stalking one on a hunt. That meant close in fast movement and terrible angles in terms of trying to get a good shot. So I will let someone else with actual hunting experience with a Moose answer that. That said they did not go down easy like an Elk. I do not know if I would go the AI route on a hunting rifle how many rounds do you want to put through it just fire forming brass? In my mind, a hunting rifle should give you a lifetime of accurate use, unlike a competition rig where you expect to regularly wear out barrels. The 280 is basically a 7mm-06 if that helps you think about the cartridges potential. Conceptually think of the 7mm Rem Mag as a .338 Win Mag necked down to 7mm. Are you getting an idea know what each one brings tot he table in terms bolt face, cartridge length and diameter, powder capacity, overall length etc???? Put another way it would be like comparing the 30-06 to a 300 Win Mag, in this case, make neck them both down and drop a 7mm on top. On Paper it looks like a huge difference but on game, it is not much difference at all. Obviously, the case with the most powder is going to spit the bullet out at higher velocity which makes for a flatter trajectory. You have to know how far away you plan to shoot. You need to pick a bullet that will both expand and hold together at the speed it will be going when it hits the animal. This is going to be a big deal between these two. Personally, I do not like to shoot at game more than 600m away if I can help it. You might feel confident taking a 800m shot my brother in law might take a 900m shot. Ideally, you would want to use a bullet that matches the cartridge and the range you intend to hunt. Are you a recoil sensitive shooter? I am 6 foot 1 and look like I played football for the NFL! I can put 60 Magnum rounds down range from a bench and not even have a bruise. If that is not you though less recoil makes it far easier to take precision shots. Dreading the recoil never helps anyone shoot straight! When I am hunting Elk I am horse back some guys like quads. If I had to walk the entire time I would want to have a fairly light rifle. My 280 is just that. It is 1.25 at the receiver for maybe 2-3 inches then it tapers down to .630 at the muzzle. If I had to walk all day up and down steep terrain that is what I want with me. The stock is a fairly light Richards Microfit in Tiger Maple. All of my magnums have much heavier barrels and the stock's tend to be beefier and my optics are beefier. Just depends on if you have a beast of burden carrying your dead weight or if you are carrying it! Last but not least what stage of life are you in? Are you still new to magnums and like all things faster and heavier or are you old enough to be past that stage? If you want a magnum get a magnum so you have no regrets! If you do not need a magnum and do not want to put up with the quirks of a magnum get the 280! Either way do what is going to make you happiest with your purchase because either will work just fine. Never over think your purchases unless you are on a tight budget and have to look far down the road. Too many people let other people talk them into buying something they do not need or want and they regret it later! Oh and if you do intend to hunt in Africa any rifle you take has to be able to shoot ammunition that has the correct headstamp on the brass. You also need to be able to purchase factory ammo in that country. Something like a 280AI would not be doable in some countries at all. It is harder to bring ammo with you traveling than it is to bring your rifle. So well established SAE and MEtric cartridges are fine but Wildcats normaly a no-no each country is different! [/QUOTE]
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