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<blockquote data-quote="Kennibear" data-source="post: 1048738" data-attributes="member: 51650"><p>First let me correct my mistake. The Nosler family is based on the RUM case only in standard 30-06 length.</p><p></p><p> Engineering 101 is onto the crux of this thread: if Savage or any other major player picks up this cartridge it will overwhelm Remington's RUM family. To wit: if you want a RUM you get a Rem 700. But if Savage or Ruger,Tikka, Browning etc. pick up these chamberings they will dominate their calibers. My Savage 116 in 375 Ruger ships from the factory with the DBM stamped "300 WM". Same with the spare DBM I ordered. It is possible for Savage to simply screw in the properly chambered barrel and join the club. Therefore the "hole" may be a standard length super-mag family of cartridges that an average hunter who buys only factory ammo (not a reloader) can afford and find what he needs. As a side note: the Savage DBM's I have measure 3.555" inside and 375 Ruger ammo loaded to a COAL of 3.450" feed and function just fine as long as the bullets don't jam the rifling @ 3.450" COAL.</p><p></p><p> As to the case size difference the 7mm RUM has the shoulder/body junction pushed almost 1/4" (0.221") further forward than the 28 Nosler. Head & shoulder diameters are essentially the same for both cartridges. 7mm RUM powder capacity is > 28 Nosler. When Lapua developed the 338 LM as a 21st Century Sniper cartridge the original loading did not meet the criteria set down. But using conventional case forming limited the operating pressure to 65Kpsi. So by employing a harder case head by altering the differential case annealing they fabricated a case capable of operating at a higher (67-72Kpsi) chamber pressure with a stronger/harder case head and primer pocket . Hence the LM runs neck and neck with the larger capacity RUM family of cases by using ever so slightly higher chamber pressures. When I read this for the first time I wondered how long it would take others to use this advantage to up the game. Seems Nosler missed an excellent opportunity to one up everyone (except Lapua) else. More's the pity.</p><p></p><p> So to the OP, 28 Nosler can fill a hole by providing excellent ballistics from standard length actions. But it ain't no 7mm RUM and it ain't far from one....</p><p></p><p>KB</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kennibear, post: 1048738, member: 51650"] First let me correct my mistake. The Nosler family is based on the RUM case only in standard 30-06 length. Engineering 101 is onto the crux of this thread: if Savage or any other major player picks up this cartridge it will overwhelm Remington's RUM family. To wit: if you want a RUM you get a Rem 700. But if Savage or Ruger,Tikka, Browning etc. pick up these chamberings they will dominate their calibers. My Savage 116 in 375 Ruger ships from the factory with the DBM stamped "300 WM". Same with the spare DBM I ordered. It is possible for Savage to simply screw in the properly chambered barrel and join the club. Therefore the "hole" may be a standard length super-mag family of cartridges that an average hunter who buys only factory ammo (not a reloader) can afford and find what he needs. As a side note: the Savage DBM's I have measure 3.555" inside and 375 Ruger ammo loaded to a COAL of 3.450" feed and function just fine as long as the bullets don't jam the rifling @ 3.450" COAL. As to the case size difference the 7mm RUM has the shoulder/body junction pushed almost 1/4" (0.221") further forward than the 28 Nosler. Head & shoulder diameters are essentially the same for both cartridges. 7mm RUM powder capacity is > 28 Nosler. When Lapua developed the 338 LM as a 21st Century Sniper cartridge the original loading did not meet the criteria set down. But using conventional case forming limited the operating pressure to 65Kpsi. So by employing a harder case head by altering the differential case annealing they fabricated a case capable of operating at a higher (67-72Kpsi) chamber pressure with a stronger/harder case head and primer pocket . Hence the LM runs neck and neck with the larger capacity RUM family of cases by using ever so slightly higher chamber pressures. When I read this for the first time I wondered how long it would take others to use this advantage to up the game. Seems Nosler missed an excellent opportunity to one up everyone (except Lapua) else. More's the pity. So to the OP, 28 Nosler can fill a hole by providing excellent ballistics from standard length actions. But it ain't no 7mm RUM and it ain't far from one.... KB [/QUOTE]
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