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28 Nosler, 30 Nosler, 300 RUM?
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<blockquote data-quote="SansSouci" data-source="post: 1246094" data-attributes="member: 84520"><p>PK,</p><p></p><p>If you're going big bucks in a custom rifle, I'd go with a cartridge that'll see a whole lotta action: '06, .308 Win, .280 Rem, .270 Win. If you want a magnum, I'd go with 7MM Rem Mag.</p><p></p><p>Take a look at the used rifle market. You'll find far more really big cartridges and heavy rifles necessary to shoot them than any of the aforementioned cartridges. </p><p></p><p>You're 100% right about a disproportionate powder charge for negligible velocity gain considering the .300 RUM vis-a-vis .300 WM. If you hand load, the same holds true of the .300 WM vs. the '06. </p><p></p><p>Right now, I don't need a custom rifle. I have factory rifles that'll shoot as well as custom rifles. Even better, they're all chambered for cartridges that do not punish me. But if I were going to go custom, I'd go with a .280 Rem or a .270 Win (I wouldn't exclude the '06), with a 22" barrel, with a great looking wood stock (I'd be good with select grade). I'd want it as light as possible. </p><p></p><p>Were I to invest in a custom <strong>HUNTING </strong>rifle, I'd want it to become my primary hunting rifle. I'd want to spend hours bench shooting it. Bench shooting builds confidence. Confidence builds big game. The last thing I'd want to do is drop 5k or far more on a custom rifle that weighs 14 pounds only to realize that a .300 RUM hurts too bench shoot and won't kill any more dead than a much lighter, easier to carry and handle, and far more shooter friendly '06.</p><p></p><p>I <strong>KNOW </strong>that cartridge is not the defining criterion of hunting success. Shot placement is. A .270 Win will kill elk just as dead as a .338 LAPUA as long as bullets from either kills really important equipment for topside oxygenated blood flow.</p><p></p><p>Seems like I've learned far too late that it's always a whole lot better to learn from others' mistakes than from my mistakes. We can see others' mistakes on the used rifle market. Sadly, these guys who've spent 5k and better on big cartridges custom rifles become despondent when they find that they're worth maybe half (if they're lucky) of what they have sunk in them. In contrast, an '06 or .270 Win will hold its value far better.</p><p></p><p>If you were to go with an '06, you'll use it on everything. And you'll be far more likely to use it on a lot of game. And it'll kill just as dead as a .300 RUM. But in the end, the rifle is for you. Buy what is right for you.</p><p></p><p>BTW, hunting rifles are like other tools: they will tell tales of use. Every nick in my rifles' stocks are connected to an adventure memory. I have a friend who owns what used to be a gorgeous Mark V. After years of hunting adventures, its stock looks like a piece of badly used furniture. He doesn't care. What he does care about is that when he burns powder, he'll put a tag on a big game animal.</p><p></p><p>I wish you the best.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SansSouci, post: 1246094, member: 84520"] PK, If you're going big bucks in a custom rifle, I'd go with a cartridge that'll see a whole lotta action: '06, .308 Win, .280 Rem, .270 Win. If you want a magnum, I'd go with 7MM Rem Mag. Take a look at the used rifle market. You'll find far more really big cartridges and heavy rifles necessary to shoot them than any of the aforementioned cartridges. You're 100% right about a disproportionate powder charge for negligible velocity gain considering the .300 RUM vis-a-vis .300 WM. If you hand load, the same holds true of the .300 WM vs. the '06. Right now, I don't need a custom rifle. I have factory rifles that'll shoot as well as custom rifles. Even better, they're all chambered for cartridges that do not punish me. But if I were going to go custom, I'd go with a .280 Rem or a .270 Win (I wouldn't exclude the '06), with a 22" barrel, with a great looking wood stock (I'd be good with select grade). I'd want it as light as possible. Were I to invest in a custom [B]HUNTING [/B]rifle, I'd want it to become my primary hunting rifle. I'd want to spend hours bench shooting it. Bench shooting builds confidence. Confidence builds big game. The last thing I'd want to do is drop 5k or far more on a custom rifle that weighs 14 pounds only to realize that a .300 RUM hurts too bench shoot and won't kill any more dead than a much lighter, easier to carry and handle, and far more shooter friendly '06. I [B]KNOW [/B]that cartridge is not the defining criterion of hunting success. Shot placement is. A .270 Win will kill elk just as dead as a .338 LAPUA as long as bullets from either kills really important equipment for topside oxygenated blood flow. Seems like I've learned far too late that it's always a whole lot better to learn from others' mistakes than from my mistakes. We can see others' mistakes on the used rifle market. Sadly, these guys who've spent 5k and better on big cartridges custom rifles become despondent when they find that they're worth maybe half (if they're lucky) of what they have sunk in them. In contrast, an '06 or .270 Win will hold its value far better. If you were to go with an '06, you'll use it on everything. And you'll be far more likely to use it on a lot of game. And it'll kill just as dead as a .300 RUM. But in the end, the rifle is for you. Buy what is right for you. BTW, hunting rifles are like other tools: they will tell tales of use. Every nick in my rifles' stocks are connected to an adventure memory. I have a friend who owns what used to be a gorgeous Mark V. After years of hunting adventures, its stock looks like a piece of badly used furniture. He doesn't care. What he does care about is that when he burns powder, he'll put a tag on a big game animal. I wish you the best. [/QUOTE]
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