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.270 win to .35 whelen
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<blockquote data-quote="HarryN" data-source="post: 924841" data-attributes="member: 69773"><p>Thanks for all of the very useful replies and information. It certainly is much more complicated to make a gun / caliber selection than when I bought that rifle in 1980. Now I have to contend with not only the basics, but also the forced copper bullet conversion (with all of those ramifications), basic availability of components, and of course my much less robust shoulder.</p><p> </p><p>The savage idea sounds interesting, I will look into that.</p><p> </p><p>While there are benefits to staying with something in the size of 270, I already have the existing setup and really want to move up caliber wise to something 35 ish size. Also, the move to copper bullets, at least to me, means that 30 caliber rifles are sort of moved down a bullet mass to 270 like ratings, so that sort of makes a move to 30 caliber not different enough either.</p><p> </p><p>When you look at copper bullets in 270 / 30 / 338 / 35 caliber / 375, etc, 35 caliber has a much broader weight range than most of the others, from 110 gr up to 175 gr. Jumping to 375 it is hard to find anything under 200 - 250 gr.</p><p> </p><p>The idea of using 375 size rounds is just plain scary unless I load them with trail boss and commercial ammo looks like it is $ 4 - 5 per shot. Yes, a pad helps and so will a brake but I shot next to those at the range and it is really loud. That is not a "no" but it isn't my goal.</p><p> </p><p>I had this sort of silly idea of converting this gun over to 358 win or 35 whelen and pairing it with a single shot pistol of the same caliber, running reduced recoil loads for training, and then something more for a hunt. 358 win rounds and brass are hard to come by (I could form them) compared to 35 whelen, but it sounds like I need to rethink the whole concept.</p><p> </p><p>I had not really considered the expense level of putting some money into the 270 to clean it up, buy another rifle and clean it up, and then buy a customized hand gun and / or clean that up. Maybe I should just plan to rebarrel to the new caliber and forget the 270 version. It just seems like a waste of a barrel that isn't even broken in yet, but maybe it is the right path.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HarryN, post: 924841, member: 69773"] Thanks for all of the very useful replies and information. It certainly is much more complicated to make a gun / caliber selection than when I bought that rifle in 1980. Now I have to contend with not only the basics, but also the forced copper bullet conversion (with all of those ramifications), basic availability of components, and of course my much less robust shoulder. The savage idea sounds interesting, I will look into that. While there are benefits to staying with something in the size of 270, I already have the existing setup and really want to move up caliber wise to something 35 ish size. Also, the move to copper bullets, at least to me, means that 30 caliber rifles are sort of moved down a bullet mass to 270 like ratings, so that sort of makes a move to 30 caliber not different enough either. When you look at copper bullets in 270 / 30 / 338 / 35 caliber / 375, etc, 35 caliber has a much broader weight range than most of the others, from 110 gr up to 175 gr. Jumping to 375 it is hard to find anything under 200 - 250 gr. The idea of using 375 size rounds is just plain scary unless I load them with trail boss and commercial ammo looks like it is $ 4 - 5 per shot. Yes, a pad helps and so will a brake but I shot next to those at the range and it is really loud. That is not a "no" but it isn't my goal. I had this sort of silly idea of converting this gun over to 358 win or 35 whelen and pairing it with a single shot pistol of the same caliber, running reduced recoil loads for training, and then something more for a hunt. 358 win rounds and brass are hard to come by (I could form them) compared to 35 whelen, but it sounds like I need to rethink the whole concept. I had not really considered the expense level of putting some money into the 270 to clean it up, buy another rifle and clean it up, and then buy a customized hand gun and / or clean that up. Maybe I should just plan to rebarrel to the new caliber and forget the 270 version. It just seems like a waste of a barrel that isn't even broken in yet, but maybe it is the right path. [/QUOTE]
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