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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 67697" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>3sixbits,</p><p></p><p>I am not sure I understand your comments, these rounds are designed specifically to provide BR accuracy at extreme range with bullets designed specifically for big game hunting. Have been all along. I have never promoted these are long range target rounds.</p><p></p><p>The take the 257, 6.5, 270 and soon the 7mm Faster, Farther and Flatter then ever before.</p><p></p><p>On the case neck question. My reamers are set up to allow no neck turning at all and to produce 0.00175" clearance on average with an unturned neck. This is for using the 338 RUM in the 257 and 6.5mm and the 7mm RUM in the 270 Allen Mag.</p><p></p><p>The rings on the necks in the pics are from using a Redding Neck Sizing Bushing that was a couple thou to small. Does not effect performance but does leave a slight mark on the case necks.</p><p></p><p>Non of my Allen Mag reamers require any case neck turning at all as again they are designed for the big game hunter not BR shooters. They only shoot like BR rifles /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif!!!</p><p></p><p>The body dimensions are as tight as youcan get them to work with the variances allowed by Rem brass. They are tight bodied chambered I assure you. It took several go arounds to get these dimensions where we wanted them working with the reamer maker, Redding and myself but we have designed a very quality min spec chamber that will provide extreme accuracy, very long case life even with top end loads and still allow use in the hunting field as again these ARE big game rounds first and formost!</p><p></p><p>On the die front, The cost involved in purchasing another custom sizing die reamer is the full price of a chambering reamer or in this case +$200. Plus I would then need to purchase die blanks and then pay to have the dies properly heat treated.</p><p></p><p>I worked with Redding and their charge to develope tooling for these new rounds was less then the envestment I would need going your way, believe me I checked everything out.</p><p></p><p>Also, Redding will not list these dies and I will be selling them and having them in stock ready to ship with the rifles as well as the Wildcat Bullets used in these rounds as well. The entire package will be ready to ship, rifle, brass, bullets dies, directly from me.</p><p></p><p>You are correct these are not exactly off the shelf cartridges or rifles, they are custom rifles offered only though my shop. As such if you order a rifle all componants will be offered and available though me so in a way they are off the shelf.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps I am not understanding your comments, what more could be made from all of my work?</p><p></p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 67697, member: 10"] 3sixbits, I am not sure I understand your comments, these rounds are designed specifically to provide BR accuracy at extreme range with bullets designed specifically for big game hunting. Have been all along. I have never promoted these are long range target rounds. The take the 257, 6.5, 270 and soon the 7mm Faster, Farther and Flatter then ever before. On the case neck question. My reamers are set up to allow no neck turning at all and to produce 0.00175" clearance on average with an unturned neck. This is for using the 338 RUM in the 257 and 6.5mm and the 7mm RUM in the 270 Allen Mag. The rings on the necks in the pics are from using a Redding Neck Sizing Bushing that was a couple thou to small. Does not effect performance but does leave a slight mark on the case necks. Non of my Allen Mag reamers require any case neck turning at all as again they are designed for the big game hunter not BR shooters. They only shoot like BR rifles [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]!!! The body dimensions are as tight as youcan get them to work with the variances allowed by Rem brass. They are tight bodied chambered I assure you. It took several go arounds to get these dimensions where we wanted them working with the reamer maker, Redding and myself but we have designed a very quality min spec chamber that will provide extreme accuracy, very long case life even with top end loads and still allow use in the hunting field as again these ARE big game rounds first and formost! On the die front, The cost involved in purchasing another custom sizing die reamer is the full price of a chambering reamer or in this case +$200. Plus I would then need to purchase die blanks and then pay to have the dies properly heat treated. I worked with Redding and their charge to develope tooling for these new rounds was less then the envestment I would need going your way, believe me I checked everything out. Also, Redding will not list these dies and I will be selling them and having them in stock ready to ship with the rifles as well as the Wildcat Bullets used in these rounds as well. The entire package will be ready to ship, rifle, brass, bullets dies, directly from me. You are correct these are not exactly off the shelf cartridges or rifles, they are custom rifles offered only though my shop. As such if you order a rifle all componants will be offered and available though me so in a way they are off the shelf. Perhaps I am not understanding your comments, what more could be made from all of my work? Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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