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.257 Wby --> .25-06 AI
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<blockquote data-quote="Nomosendero" data-source="post: 461100" data-attributes="member: 3622"><p>I also hear that a 308 will group better than a 300WM, I shoot both & I am not too sure the 300WM does so bad compared to a 308, esp. after 800 yds. After Kirby worked over my Sendero</p><p>25-06AI, .25-.40 MOA groups were common with the 125 Wildcat, 100 & 115BT. Would the Bob give me .15-.30 MOA instead, who knows, but I have seen that a broad range of rounds will produce very small groups with a good barrel, good loads & a good shooter, so much so that it gets hard to tell which cartridge groups better. I am merely guessing, but if Buffalobob took</p><p>an Antelope at a 1000yds with his 257 Wea, it likely groups OK. So, it might be inherently accurate.</p><p></p><p>I don't know where a guy named Bob Hutton comes into this, but I saw where backwoods83 stated he got 3800 with the 100 in a 257 Wea. </p><p>, that seems a little fast, but I don't know the particulars of his rifle. </p><p></p><p>"Ackley upfront says 3400 maybe, but 3300 is more realistic." Did Mr. Ackley have access to RL 22, 25, Retumbo, Magnum powder, etc. ? Again, it seems strange to talk about what Ackley could get out of a given round before these slower propellants were invented. I do know that tons of 257 wea. rifles with 26" tubes get 3600 & change with a 100 gr. easily, some will beat that a little. I load for two 26" std. 25-06's & 3350-3400 is no trick with RL25 & one likes the 115BT at 3200. With the 25-06AI I can get 3475-3500 with the 100, 3300 with 115 & 3200 with 125 Wildcat. But then again, my powders & primers are not Woodstock era either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nomosendero, post: 461100, member: 3622"] I also hear that a 308 will group better than a 300WM, I shoot both & I am not too sure the 300WM does so bad compared to a 308, esp. after 800 yds. After Kirby worked over my Sendero 25-06AI, .25-.40 MOA groups were common with the 125 Wildcat, 100 & 115BT. Would the Bob give me .15-.30 MOA instead, who knows, but I have seen that a broad range of rounds will produce very small groups with a good barrel, good loads & a good shooter, so much so that it gets hard to tell which cartridge groups better. I am merely guessing, but if Buffalobob took an Antelope at a 1000yds with his 257 Wea, it likely groups OK. So, it might be inherently accurate. I don't know where a guy named Bob Hutton comes into this, but I saw where backwoods83 stated he got 3800 with the 100 in a 257 Wea. , that seems a little fast, but I don't know the particulars of his rifle. "Ackley upfront says 3400 maybe, but 3300 is more realistic." Did Mr. Ackley have access to RL 22, 25, Retumbo, Magnum powder, etc. ? Again, it seems strange to talk about what Ackley could get out of a given round before these slower propellants were invented. I do know that tons of 257 wea. rifles with 26" tubes get 3600 & change with a 100 gr. easily, some will beat that a little. I load for two 26" std. 25-06's & 3350-3400 is no trick with RL25 & one likes the 115BT at 3200. With the 25-06AI I can get 3475-3500 with the 100, 3300 with 115 & 3200 with 125 Wildcat. But then again, my powders & primers are not Woodstock era either. [/QUOTE]
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