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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 36743" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>375-06 JDJ,</p><p></p><p>I am also very excited to get these rounds off the ground. I guess they are off the ground but until I have hard data to offer everyone, I can't say for sure how these big rounds will run.</p><p></p><p>On paper they look very impressive but as we all know this does not always transfer to the real world. </p><p></p><p>I think alot of quality homework has been put into these rounds by Richard Graves on the bullet end and myself on the case design and rifle design.</p><p></p><p>Richard does not have a Web site for Wildcat Bullets but you can E-mail him at:</p><p></p><p><a href="mailto:wildcatbullets@hotmail.com">wildcatbullets@hotmail.com</a></p><p></p><p>Ask him for information on any bullets your interested in and he will freely give it to you. Hell of a guy to work with and I feel he is as large a part of these new rounds performance levels as I am, that is how advanced his bullet designs and weights are.</p><p></p><p>Here are some pics of his bullets compared to others of the same caliber.</p><p></p><p> <img src="http://photohost.org/gallery/uploads/5648/6mmbulletcomparision.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p>These are 6mm bullet starting from left to right:87 gr HPBT Hornady, 95 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, 105 gr A-Max, 105 gr Berger VLD and the last two are the Wildcat Bullets 110 gr Bonded Core FBHP.</p><p></p><p>These FBHP have a B.C. higher then the 105 gr A-Max and just under the 105 gr Bergers. Not to bad for a FB big game bullet.</p><p></p><p> <img src="http://photohost.org/gallery/uploads/5648/257bulletcomparision.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p>These are .257" bullets. Left to right: 100 gr Partition, 100 gr Ballistic Tip, 115 gr Ballistic Silvertip, 100 gr Wildcat Bonded Core FBHP, 130 gr Wildcat Bonded Core FBHP and finally the 145 gr Wildcat FBSP.</p><p></p><p>As you can see the 145 is the same length as the 130 so B.C. will be nearly the same but penetration will be deeper and it will still stabilize very well in the 1-10" twist range just like the 130 gr Wildcat.</p><p></p><p>The 150 gr version which is yet to be built may be a different story as will the 145 gr ULD rebated boattail.</p><p></p><p>Comparing the 130 and 145 to the 115 gr Ballistic Silvertip really puts these bullets into perspective. They will penetrate every bit as deep as teh 160 adn 175 gr 7mm bullets or any other bullets with this S.D. and with a B.C. much higher then most big game bullets. The 130 gr FBHP has a B.C. in the .560 range. The 150 gr version should be in the .6 range and the 145 gr ULD shoudl be at least in the .650 range, probably closer to .7 in B.C.</p><p></p><p> <img src="http://photohost.org/gallery/uploads/5648/257bulletcomp2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p>Here is the 115 gr Ballistic Silvertip flanked on the left by the 130 gr Bonded Core FBHP and on the right by the 145 gr FBSP Wildcat bullet.</p><p></p><p> <img src="http://photohost.org/gallery/uploads/5648/65bulletcomparision.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p>These are 6.5mm bullets from left to right: 120 gr Ballistic Tip, 140 gr Wildcat Bonded Core FBHP, 140 gr A-Max and the 142 gr Wildcat ULD rebated boattail.</p><p></p><p>As you can see the 140 gr BCFBHP is nearly as long as the 140 gr A-Max bullet with nearly identical B.C.</p><p></p><p>The 142 gr ULD is a great long range bullet for the 6.5mm rounds. SO far I have found it to have a higher B.C. then the 142 gr Sierra Mk and on average will out shoot it as well.</p><p></p><p>Finally, here is a pic of the three new rounds. These are virgin brass rounds so when fireformed the shoudler will be sharper and fatter at the shoulder as well.</p><p></p><p> <img src="http://photohost.org/gallery/uploads/5648/257-65-270AM.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p>They will look quite different in fired cases but this gives an idea of what they will look like.</p><p></p><p>Get ahold of Richard and he will give you all the information you want.</p><p></p><p>Good Shooting!!!</p><p></p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 36743, member: 10"] 375-06 JDJ, I am also very excited to get these rounds off the ground. I guess they are off the ground but until I have hard data to offer everyone, I can't say for sure how these big rounds will run. On paper they look very impressive but as we all know this does not always transfer to the real world. I think alot of quality homework has been put into these rounds by Richard Graves on the bullet end and myself on the case design and rifle design. Richard does not have a Web site for Wildcat Bullets but you can E-mail him at: [email]wildcatbullets@hotmail.com[/email] Ask him for information on any bullets your interested in and he will freely give it to you. Hell of a guy to work with and I feel he is as large a part of these new rounds performance levels as I am, that is how advanced his bullet designs and weights are. Here are some pics of his bullets compared to others of the same caliber. [img]http://photohost.org/gallery/uploads/5648/6mmbulletcomparision.jpg[/img] These are 6mm bullet starting from left to right:87 gr HPBT Hornady, 95 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, 105 gr A-Max, 105 gr Berger VLD and the last two are the Wildcat Bullets 110 gr Bonded Core FBHP. These FBHP have a B.C. higher then the 105 gr A-Max and just under the 105 gr Bergers. Not to bad for a FB big game bullet. [img]http://photohost.org/gallery/uploads/5648/257bulletcomparision.jpg[/img] These are .257" bullets. Left to right: 100 gr Partition, 100 gr Ballistic Tip, 115 gr Ballistic Silvertip, 100 gr Wildcat Bonded Core FBHP, 130 gr Wildcat Bonded Core FBHP and finally the 145 gr Wildcat FBSP. As you can see the 145 is the same length as the 130 so B.C. will be nearly the same but penetration will be deeper and it will still stabilize very well in the 1-10" twist range just like the 130 gr Wildcat. The 150 gr version which is yet to be built may be a different story as will the 145 gr ULD rebated boattail. Comparing the 130 and 145 to the 115 gr Ballistic Silvertip really puts these bullets into perspective. They will penetrate every bit as deep as teh 160 adn 175 gr 7mm bullets or any other bullets with this S.D. and with a B.C. much higher then most big game bullets. The 130 gr FBHP has a B.C. in the .560 range. The 150 gr version should be in the .6 range and the 145 gr ULD shoudl be at least in the .650 range, probably closer to .7 in B.C. [img]http://photohost.org/gallery/uploads/5648/257bulletcomp2.jpg[/img] Here is the 115 gr Ballistic Silvertip flanked on the left by the 130 gr Bonded Core FBHP and on the right by the 145 gr FBSP Wildcat bullet. [img]http://photohost.org/gallery/uploads/5648/65bulletcomparision.jpg[/img] These are 6.5mm bullets from left to right: 120 gr Ballistic Tip, 140 gr Wildcat Bonded Core FBHP, 140 gr A-Max and the 142 gr Wildcat ULD rebated boattail. As you can see the 140 gr BCFBHP is nearly as long as the 140 gr A-Max bullet with nearly identical B.C. The 142 gr ULD is a great long range bullet for the 6.5mm rounds. SO far I have found it to have a higher B.C. then the 142 gr Sierra Mk and on average will out shoot it as well. Finally, here is a pic of the three new rounds. These are virgin brass rounds so when fireformed the shoudler will be sharper and fatter at the shoulder as well. [img]http://photohost.org/gallery/uploads/5648/257-65-270AM.jpg[/img] They will look quite different in fired cases but this gives an idea of what they will look like. Get ahold of Richard and he will give you all the information you want. Good Shooting!!! Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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