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25-06ai or 270ai thoughts?
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<blockquote data-quote="Alibiiv" data-source="post: 1800652" data-attributes="member: 69192"><p>From the present posts I am in a minority with a .270 Ackley Improved. It is on a Ruger 77 action with a 26 inch Lilja barrel. The rifle is very accurate, getting .5 groups at 300 yards with it; something that I never thought possible until I had this rifle built. I wanted a "wildcat" and <u><em>that's the "reason" for building this rifle in this cartridge</em></u>. I'm pretty much using .270WSM load data for starting loads and go from there. One of the posts here stated to just go with a .270WSM, if that's what you want then by all means that is the way to go. I'm getting close to 3300fps with Nolser 150gr ABLRs (BC .625), but that load is hard on brass and not the most accurate. Going to start playing with the Nosler 140gr bullets next.</p><p></p><p>I'd like to build a 6.5-06 Ackley Improved (just to have another Ackley), but having some trouble with deciding what way I want to go!???? My gunsmith is ole school, feels like the 6.5-06 already is overbore and doesn't see any reason to go more than 6.5-06, plus he doesn't have a 6.5-06AI reamer; and, I have a tremendous respect for his opinion/s. Also would not discount the 6.5 Sherman cartridge, for me not certain about the economics of getting set up in that cartridge; but, it does have some benefits of good barrel life and performance. I just read a thread about the benefits of the 40 degree shoulder, and the longer neck and barrel life that made a lot of sense to me; thanks Rich!</p><p></p><p>And.....one last comment about all of this stuff about what round is bigger, better and best! If one were to be honest, sat down with paper and pencil to write down all the specifications that all of the cartridges have and make a comparison, there really is not that much difference between the "high-speed" cartridges. Yes some cartridges have there pluses over others, but....when one comes down to it, there really is not that much difference. I am a .270 fan so when a new, high-speed, intercontinental, anti-tank, elephant round comes out, I do a comparison to see if that particular cartridge is better than the .270 Winchester or the .270WSM (for my particular hunting and shooting requirements/needs), and....oftentimes there's really not enough difference for me to change over.<u><em> And.....boy I suspect that I'm going to get beat up over this comment<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></em></u></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alibiiv, post: 1800652, member: 69192"] From the present posts I am in a minority with a .270 Ackley Improved. It is on a Ruger 77 action with a 26 inch Lilja barrel. The rifle is very accurate, getting .5 groups at 300 yards with it; something that I never thought possible until I had this rifle built. I wanted a "wildcat" and [U][I]that's the "reason" for building this rifle in this cartridge[/I][/U]. I'm pretty much using .270WSM load data for starting loads and go from there. One of the posts here stated to just go with a .270WSM, if that's what you want then by all means that is the way to go. I'm getting close to 3300fps with Nolser 150gr ABLRs (BC .625), but that load is hard on brass and not the most accurate. Going to start playing with the Nosler 140gr bullets next. I'd like to build a 6.5-06 Ackley Improved (just to have another Ackley), but having some trouble with deciding what way I want to go!???? My gunsmith is ole school, feels like the 6.5-06 already is overbore and doesn't see any reason to go more than 6.5-06, plus he doesn't have a 6.5-06AI reamer; and, I have a tremendous respect for his opinion/s. Also would not discount the 6.5 Sherman cartridge, for me not certain about the economics of getting set up in that cartridge; but, it does have some benefits of good barrel life and performance. I just read a thread about the benefits of the 40 degree shoulder, and the longer neck and barrel life that made a lot of sense to me; thanks Rich! And.....one last comment about all of this stuff about what round is bigger, better and best! If one were to be honest, sat down with paper and pencil to write down all the specifications that all of the cartridges have and make a comparison, there really is not that much difference between the "high-speed" cartridges. Yes some cartridges have there pluses over others, but....when one comes down to it, there really is not that much difference. I am a .270 fan so when a new, high-speed, intercontinental, anti-tank, elephant round comes out, I do a comparison to see if that particular cartridge is better than the .270 Winchester or the .270WSM (for my particular hunting and shooting requirements/needs), and....oftentimes there's really not enough difference for me to change over.[U][I] And.....boy I suspect that I'm going to get beat up over this comment:rolleyes::rolleyes:[/I][/U] [/QUOTE]
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