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.224 Vais vs. 6/284
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<blockquote data-quote="brianwinzor" data-source="post: 96465" data-attributes="member: 1067"><p>Millerlite, There is an article (King of the Deuces) on the .224 Vais in the April 1998 edition of Precision Shooting, by L D Standish. I have selected several quotes from that article:</p><p></p><p>"To be dubbed the .224 Vais (what else?), the new cartridge was to be a necked-down, blown-out 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser with a 35 degree shoulder, for which there is a plentiful supply of brass. "</p><p></p><p>"What if I told you I have a .22 that makes a .220 Swift look like a defective mortar, and leaves a .224 Clark standing in the dust? </p><p></p><p>"What if I told you it would even equal or better the 6-.284's statistics, and the brass is available from all the major suppliers, including Norma, Lapua, Winchester, RWS, and Remington? "</p><p></p><p>The test was with the JLK 80 grain VLD and using RE22, but no loads were mentioned, but this quote caught my attention:</p><p>"With the barrel broken in and load testing and tuning complete, the .224 Vais is consistently turning in groups mostly averaging in the low to mid 2's at a measured average velocity of 3,773 fps (10 feet from the muzzle). "</p><p></p><p>There are a lot of statements in the article that are open to challenge, and I note that in the .224 Vais he is getting 3,773 fps with the 80 grain JLK in a 30 inch barrel, while in the .224 Clark, I got about 3730 fps with the 80 grain Sierra MK in a 25.25 inch barrel. Yet he claims the .224 Vais leaves the "Clark" in its dust.</p><p></p><p>As both the 224 Clark and 22/6mmAI, have the 7x57mm mauser case as the parent, you would expect them to have a marginally larger case capacity than the 224 Vais which is based on the 6.5x55mm Swedish case. </p><p></p><p>I also agree with Kirby regarding trying to exceed about 3,500 fps with the 75 Amax. I can recall many reports that they have come apart at velocities between 3,600 and 3,800, and especially when using a 1 in 8 twist. A velocity of 3,500 - 3,600 fps can easily be achieved by using the smaller capacity 22/6mm (unimproved)case. </p><p></p><p>Personally if I was using a case with the capacity of the .224 Vais, I would concentrate on using bullets in the 80 - 100 grain range, but this would require using a 1 in 7 twist barrel. Hope that the above helps. Brian.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brianwinzor, post: 96465, member: 1067"] Millerlite, There is an article (King of the Deuces) on the .224 Vais in the April 1998 edition of Precision Shooting, by L D Standish. I have selected several quotes from that article: "To be dubbed the .224 Vais (what else?), the new cartridge was to be a necked-down, blown-out 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser with a 35 degree shoulder, for which there is a plentiful supply of brass. " "What if I told you I have a .22 that makes a .220 Swift look like a defective mortar, and leaves a .224 Clark standing in the dust? "What if I told you it would even equal or better the 6-.284's statistics, and the brass is available from all the major suppliers, including Norma, Lapua, Winchester, RWS, and Remington? " The test was with the JLK 80 grain VLD and using RE22, but no loads were mentioned, but this quote caught my attention: "With the barrel broken in and load testing and tuning complete, the .224 Vais is consistently turning in groups mostly averaging in the low to mid 2's at a measured average velocity of 3,773 fps (10 feet from the muzzle). " There are a lot of statements in the article that are open to challenge, and I note that in the .224 Vais he is getting 3,773 fps with the 80 grain JLK in a 30 inch barrel, while in the .224 Clark, I got about 3730 fps with the 80 grain Sierra MK in a 25.25 inch barrel. Yet he claims the .224 Vais leaves the "Clark" in its dust. As both the 224 Clark and 22/6mmAI, have the 7x57mm mauser case as the parent, you would expect them to have a marginally larger case capacity than the 224 Vais which is based on the 6.5x55mm Swedish case. I also agree with Kirby regarding trying to exceed about 3,500 fps with the 75 Amax. I can recall many reports that they have come apart at velocities between 3,600 and 3,800, and especially when using a 1 in 8 twist. A velocity of 3,500 - 3,600 fps can easily be achieved by using the smaller capacity 22/6mm (unimproved)case. Personally if I was using a case with the capacity of the .224 Vais, I would concentrate on using bullets in the 80 - 100 grain range, but this would require using a 1 in 7 twist barrel. Hope that the above helps. Brian. [/QUOTE]
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