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.224 Vais vs. 6/284
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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 96122" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Millerlite,</p><p></p><p>Have you actually been able to get the 75 gr A-Max over 3500 fps accurtely? Just curious as these tend to be pretty quick to come apart in flight at high velocities. Most rifles I have tested the A-Max bullets in top out around 3300 fps with their best accuracy.</p><p></p><p>This is also with Lilja 3 groove barrels though. With conventional 6 groove rifling you can often get more out of them velocity wise.</p><p></p><p>Still, the A-Max loaded to 3700 fps would be something to see if it was accurate!!</p><p></p><p>The 6-284 will easily top 3700 fps in a 28" barrel. The ones I have built are mainly on 30" pipes which will easily break 4K with top loads with this bullet. In a 28" pipe you are looking at +3850 fps potential on average from my experience with top loads. This bullet will take any velocity you can though at it so there is generally no accuracy decrease with top velocities.</p><p></p><p>Personally I would go with the 6-284 but design it for the heavier 90 to 107 gr VLD or ULD bullet designs. Velocity will drop to the 3400-3450 fps range but down range consistancy as far as windage is gererally improved.</p><p></p><p>This all depends on what you feel is medium range shooting. If your talking 500 yards, both rounds are acutally much more then you need. If your talking 1/2 mile, then I would lean toward the big 6mm. If your looking at 1000 and beyond which some do consider medium range(not me!!) then the big 6mm would be my only choice.</p><p></p><p>Ease of loading is also a consideration as the 6-284 is very easy to load for. But you have the Vias dies so that is a cost you would not have to pay for. </p><p></p><p>Personally, I would go with the big 6mm of the two choices to pick from.</p><p></p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 96122, member: 10"] Millerlite, Have you actually been able to get the 75 gr A-Max over 3500 fps accurtely? Just curious as these tend to be pretty quick to come apart in flight at high velocities. Most rifles I have tested the A-Max bullets in top out around 3300 fps with their best accuracy. This is also with Lilja 3 groove barrels though. With conventional 6 groove rifling you can often get more out of them velocity wise. Still, the A-Max loaded to 3700 fps would be something to see if it was accurate!! The 6-284 will easily top 3700 fps in a 28" barrel. The ones I have built are mainly on 30" pipes which will easily break 4K with top loads with this bullet. In a 28" pipe you are looking at +3850 fps potential on average from my experience with top loads. This bullet will take any velocity you can though at it so there is generally no accuracy decrease with top velocities. Personally I would go with the 6-284 but design it for the heavier 90 to 107 gr VLD or ULD bullet designs. Velocity will drop to the 3400-3450 fps range but down range consistancy as far as windage is gererally improved. This all depends on what you feel is medium range shooting. If your talking 500 yards, both rounds are acutally much more then you need. If your talking 1/2 mile, then I would lean toward the big 6mm. If your looking at 1000 and beyond which some do consider medium range(not me!!) then the big 6mm would be my only choice. Ease of loading is also a consideration as the 6-284 is very easy to load for. But you have the Vias dies so that is a cost you would not have to pay for. Personally, I would go with the big 6mm of the two choices to pick from. Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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