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Coyote Hunting - From 10 Yards to over 1,000 Yards
.22 MAG too small for coyotes???
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<blockquote data-quote="scottyd2506" data-source="post: 674032" data-attributes="member: 19778"><p>Topgun, what you are saying makes perfect sense, I am not good with words on paper (computer). a 40 grain TNT from a 22 mag at 2200 fps is enough, as long as the range is short.</p><p> Those running shots at 150 yards are no less humain than a deer with a 223 at long range.</p><p> All in all the 22 rimfire can kill Coyote, but I have seen too many run off.</p><p></p><p> None of us want to see an animal suffer, clean humane kills are what we all should be after, the coyote deserves at least a 223.</p><p> If all I had was a 22 with me then yes, I would uise it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>but to go out hunting coyotes with a 22 rimfire (magnum) when you have a 223- 22-250 30-06 in the gun safe, to my hunting ethics, is not good hunting practice. </p><p> Not any less or more ethical than some kids buying a 270 win and simmons 4x32mm scope from walmart and trying to kill a deer with it at 700 yards.</p><p> they are probably more ethical than a 22 mag on a coyote at 150 yards. </p><p></p><p>223 Rem 40 vmax at 3700 fps</p><p>22WRM 40 vmax at 2100 fps </p><p></p><p>The difference is utterly gigantic in velocity </p><p></p><p>The 22-250 with a 53 Vmax (,290 bc) at 3800 fps would still have 2100 fps at 500 yards, more than a 22 mag at 50 yrds unless you can get the coyote to come up and snuff the barrel of the gun.</p><p></p><p> This is the reason why the standard of 250 yds for the 233 and over 400 for the 22-250 is for coyotes, keeping shots over 2000 fps for expansion</p><p>the 223 at 250 yards has more speed than the 22 mag has 1 inch from the muzzle.</p><p> Rimfire are not notorious for accuracy past 50 yards either.</p><p> </p><p>the 22 and 17 rimfire magnums need not apply here unless the coyote is under 100 yards. all other shots are a lottery</p><p></p><p> Topgun 30-06 sounds to me like a guy who knows about his firearms and how to shoot and what to use and what not to use.</p><p></p><p> I'm not saying that the ones who use the 22 mag are unethical, but we sure the H***do not need to give the anti gunners more evidence to use against us, when they see all those injured coyotes running the county limping around. by the 22 mags.</p><p> I'm not really bothered by hunting ethics to the extreme , but the anti gunners are, we need not fuel their drive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scottyd2506, post: 674032, member: 19778"] Topgun, what you are saying makes perfect sense, I am not good with words on paper (computer). a 40 grain TNT from a 22 mag at 2200 fps is enough, as long as the range is short. Those running shots at 150 yards are no less humain than a deer with a 223 at long range. All in all the 22 rimfire can kill Coyote, but I have seen too many run off. None of us want to see an animal suffer, clean humane kills are what we all should be after, the coyote deserves at least a 223. If all I had was a 22 with me then yes, I would uise it. but to go out hunting coyotes with a 22 rimfire (magnum) when you have a 223- 22-250 30-06 in the gun safe, to my hunting ethics, is not good hunting practice. Not any less or more ethical than some kids buying a 270 win and simmons 4x32mm scope from walmart and trying to kill a deer with it at 700 yards. they are probably more ethical than a 22 mag on a coyote at 150 yards. 223 Rem 40 vmax at 3700 fps 22WRM 40 vmax at 2100 fps The difference is utterly gigantic in velocity The 22-250 with a 53 Vmax (,290 bc) at 3800 fps would still have 2100 fps at 500 yards, more than a 22 mag at 50 yrds unless you can get the coyote to come up and snuff the barrel of the gun. This is the reason why the standard of 250 yds for the 233 and over 400 for the 22-250 is for coyotes, keeping shots over 2000 fps for expansion the 223 at 250 yards has more speed than the 22 mag has 1 inch from the muzzle. Rimfire are not notorious for accuracy past 50 yards either. the 22 and 17 rimfire magnums need not apply here unless the coyote is under 100 yards. all other shots are a lottery Topgun 30-06 sounds to me like a guy who knows about his firearms and how to shoot and what to use and what not to use. I'm not saying that the ones who use the 22 mag are unethical, but we sure the H***do not need to give the anti gunners more evidence to use against us, when they see all those injured coyotes running the county limping around. by the 22 mags. I'm not really bothered by hunting ethics to the extreme , but the anti gunners are, we need not fuel their drive. [/QUOTE]
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