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208 ELDM, 300 WM. Hunting approved?
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<blockquote data-quote="entoptics" data-source="post: 1528055" data-attributes="member: 104268"><p>I've seen variations on this question all over the inter webs, but thought I'd ask again.</p><p></p><p>My rifle just won't shoot anything better than the ELD-M 208. The Berger 210-215 gr offerings are close, but not close enough to justify the 50% price increase for someone who shoots as much as me, especially when the main hunting advertisement for Bergers is explosive fragmentation...</p><p></p><p>My question is, does anyone here have any REAL WORLD experience with 208 ELD bullets on big game (deer/elk or tougher). Ballistic gel tests would be helpful too. I've seen all sorts of ELD Match results on game, but they tend to be 6.5 caliber. I don't give a crap what a tiny little 147 6.5 will do to a deer at pellet gun velocities...<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>My theory is that, with a 30 cal at impact velocities of >2000 fps, even if the things grenade, there's still 208 grains of shrapnel (e.g. Bergers). If they don't explode like Bergers, and simply deform and tumble (aka. M193 Ball in an M4), that's still a couple thousand ftlbs of disruption.</p><p></p><p>My main concern is if they "ice pick". It's no less ethical than archery hunting, but I'd prefer to find jello inside, or at least a golf ball sized exit, than wait in hiding while the animal bleeds out from a 30 cal spear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="entoptics, post: 1528055, member: 104268"] I've seen variations on this question all over the inter webs, but thought I'd ask again. My rifle just won't shoot anything better than the ELD-M 208. The Berger 210-215 gr offerings are close, but not close enough to justify the 50% price increase for someone who shoots as much as me, especially when the main hunting advertisement for Bergers is explosive fragmentation... My question is, does anyone here have any REAL WORLD experience with 208 ELD bullets on big game (deer/elk or tougher). Ballistic gel tests would be helpful too. I've seen all sorts of ELD Match results on game, but they tend to be 6.5 caliber. I don't give a crap what a tiny little 147 6.5 will do to a deer at pellet gun velocities...;) My theory is that, with a 30 cal at impact velocities of >2000 fps, even if the things grenade, there's still 208 grains of shrapnel (e.g. Bergers). If they don't explode like Bergers, and simply deform and tumble (aka. M193 Ball in an M4), that's still a couple thousand ftlbs of disruption. My main concern is if they "ice pick". It's no less ethical than archery hunting, but I'd prefer to find jello inside, or at least a golf ball sized exit, than wait in hiding while the animal bleeds out from a 30 cal spear. [/QUOTE]
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