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<blockquote data-quote="Jon A" data-source="post: 385665" data-attributes="member: 319"><p>I can second the above that the 3-9 SS is a very good scope for the money. Naturally, most here will want more power but it's a solid all around performer that can get the job done at long range when needed. Bigger news is their upcoming 4.something-20ishX50ish scope. That's one that will be of great interest to many here, it might give the PST's a run for their money.</p><p></p><p>A couple more not mentioned that many here may not know about are Bushnell's latest. They have a new 3-12 and a 6-24 based on the 4200 Elite series with illuminated FFP mildot reticles and 0.1 mil knobs to match. They aren't in the same class as the PST's, but the 4200's have always had a good rep for quality and durability so these should be solid and reliable scopes for those on a budget. I think the 6-24 has fairly limited travel though so keep that in mind.</p><p></p><p>Up the scale a little is IOR. Their 2.5-10 has been improved with new knobs, reticle and better illumination. That's a fine scope and is as durable as any scope you'll find. While everybody surely knows of my durability problems with the 3-18, I can't help but be intrigued by their new 3.5-18X50 with all new redesigned internals (supposedly bulletproof now), illumination and a 50mm objective to make it better in low light (the 3-18X42 wasn't the best low light scope). If you aren't going to be pounding the brush with your rig, their new 6-24X56 FFP is making my mouth water. A very thin FFP reticle, illumination and the big 10 Mil knobs. It's probably as close as you'll get optically to the S&B/Premier 5-25 or Hensoldt 6-24 with those features for significantly less money.</p><p></p><p>Of course the big ones everybody is waiting on are the PST's. That's a price slot that really needed filling. Just another month or so….</p><p></p><p>While they are still certainly more limited, I'm happy to see more and more affordable FFP choices are showing up. I think the gap between FFP scopes for "rich guys" or "cheap made in China junk" is gradually being filled.</p><p></p><p>Sorry I missed this before. It's not weak at all, and here's why:</p><p></p><p>Nearly every hunting season for me, even when I <strong>DO</strong> have luck and am successful amounts to one. Single. Shot. Bang, done. And in the Fall, no, mirage isn't usually a huge problem.</p><p></p><p>However, of the hundreds and hundreds of rounds I shoot <strong>between</strong> hunting seasons so that I don't forget how, much less try and get better, a large majority of them are spent during the summer months. Depending upon where you shoot, the summer can mean <strong>MOST</strong> of the time, mirage is a problem from mild to just plain nasty. I'm a big believer in practicing how you play so if one plans to hold for wind at the moment of truth, on the shot for all the marbles, he really ought to be practicing that way too.</p><p></p><p>And so with a high powered scope in the heat of the summer…. Sure, one can scale things down and do math, dial down to ½ power, etc, but after doing that, dealing with those issues, then moving to FFP, all that stuff just seems so silly to me now. Maybe it's just me, but when I try and think of one single reason why I would want a SFP that would make up for dealing with the "silliness" above that would come with it, nothing comes close. Of course again, for those who don't ever use their reticles for anything, nevermind. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, I'm still waiting on the PST's like everybody else. I will have full and detailed reports on two of them soon (hopefully). If the 4-16 survives the summer on my 300 RUM (which will be no easy task) and passes all my other tests, I plan to use it this season. The 6-24 will be used as more of a plinker, but on the other hand that means I'll probably put three times as many rounds through it so anything not right with it will bother me quickly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jon A, post: 385665, member: 319"] I can second the above that the 3-9 SS is a very good scope for the money. Naturally, most here will want more power but it’s a solid all around performer that can get the job done at long range when needed. Bigger news is their upcoming 4.something-20ishX50ish scope. That’s one that will be of great interest to many here, it might give the PST’s a run for their money. A couple more not mentioned that many here may not know about are Bushnell’s latest. They have a new 3-12 and a 6-24 based on the 4200 Elite series with illuminated FFP mildot reticles and 0.1 mil knobs to match. They aren’t in the same class as the PST’s, but the 4200’s have always had a good rep for quality and durability so these should be solid and reliable scopes for those on a budget. I think the 6-24 has fairly limited travel though so keep that in mind. Up the scale a little is IOR. Their 2.5-10 has been improved with new knobs, reticle and better illumination. That’s a fine scope and is as durable as any scope you’ll find. While everybody surely knows of my durability problems with the 3-18, I can’t help but be intrigued by their new 3.5-18X50 with all new redesigned internals (supposedly bulletproof now), illumination and a 50mm objective to make it better in low light (the 3-18X42 wasn’t the best low light scope). If you aren’t going to be pounding the brush with your rig, their new 6-24X56 FFP is making my mouth water. A very thin FFP reticle, illumination and the big 10 Mil knobs. It’s probably as close as you’ll get optically to the S&B/Premier 5-25 or Hensoldt 6-24 with those features for significantly less money. Of course the big ones everybody is waiting on are the PST’s. That’s a price slot that really needed filling. Just another month or so…. While they are still certainly more limited, I’m happy to see more and more affordable FFP choices are showing up. I think the gap between FFP scopes for “rich guys” or “cheap made in China junk” is gradually being filled. Sorry I missed this before. It’s not weak at all, and here’s why: Nearly every hunting season for me, even when I [b]DO[/b] have luck and am successful amounts to one. Single. Shot. Bang, done. And in the Fall, no, mirage isn’t usually a huge problem. However, of the hundreds and hundreds of rounds I shoot [b]between[/b] hunting seasons so that I don’t forget how, much less try and get better, a large majority of them are spent during the summer months. Depending upon where you shoot, the summer can mean [b]MOST[/b] of the time, mirage is a problem from mild to just plain nasty. I’m a big believer in practicing how you play so if one plans to hold for wind at the moment of truth, on the shot for all the marbles, he really ought to be practicing that way too. And so with a high powered scope in the heat of the summer…. Sure, one can scale things down and do math, dial down to ½ power, etc, but after doing that, dealing with those issues, then moving to FFP, all that stuff just seems so silly to me now. Maybe it’s just me, but when I try and think of one single reason why I would want a SFP that would make up for dealing with the “silliness” above that would come with it, nothing comes close. Of course again, for those who don’t ever use their reticles for anything, nevermind. ;) Unfortunately, I’m still waiting on the PST’s like everybody else. I will have full and detailed reports on two of them soon (hopefully). If the 4-16 survives the summer on my 300 RUM (which will be no easy task) and passes all my other tests, I plan to use it this season. The 6-24 will be used as more of a plinker, but on the other hand that means I’ll probably put three times as many rounds through it so anything not right with it will bother me quickly. [/QUOTE]
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