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1moa or half moa guaranteed rifles... worth anything or just a gimmick?
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<blockquote data-quote="DJ Fergus" data-source="post: 1582140" data-attributes="member: 93895"><p>This is probably the most logical statement I've ever heard on an internet shooting/ hunting forum. Alot of people think that because they shot 1/2 moa a couple of times with a particular rifle then it's a 1/2 moa rifle. I have a rifle that will do 5/8 moa about 60% of the time, I ocassionally get a flyer that opens it up to 1 moa. That's with hand loads. I consider that a 1moa rifle. I'm still trying to identify the cause of my flyer. But it's routinely 1moa with the right factory ammo. The problem I see with accuracy guarantees is that it might shoot to that guarantee with factory ammo but it may not be the particular bullet I want to shoot. I also have a 25-06 that will do 1/2 moa consistantly with handloaded 80 great Barnes for three shots. It doesn't like absolutely anything else. The 80 Barnes does ok but I would be much happier shooting 115 or 120 grainers 1/2 moa. It does about 1.5 moa with those. If it so happens that a fellow gets a 1/2 moa factory rifle, then he really may not learn much. Finicky rifles and not being able to afford a custom rifle forced me to learn alot. If I could have been able to buy 1/2 moa factory ammo rifles then I wouldn't know how to reload at this point. Alot can be done with a consistent moa rifle. Theres Plenty of keyboard heros out there shooting consistent 1/4 moa with pencil barrel hunting rifles, lol.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DJ Fergus, post: 1582140, member: 93895"] This is probably the most logical statement I've ever heard on an internet shooting/ hunting forum. Alot of people think that because they shot 1/2 moa a couple of times with a particular rifle then it's a 1/2 moa rifle. I have a rifle that will do 5/8 moa about 60% of the time, I ocassionally get a flyer that opens it up to 1 moa. That's with hand loads. I consider that a 1moa rifle. I'm still trying to identify the cause of my flyer. But it's routinely 1moa with the right factory ammo. The problem I see with accuracy guarantees is that it might shoot to that guarantee with factory ammo but it may not be the particular bullet I want to shoot. I also have a 25-06 that will do 1/2 moa consistantly with handloaded 80 great Barnes for three shots. It doesn't like absolutely anything else. The 80 Barnes does ok but I would be much happier shooting 115 or 120 grainers 1/2 moa. It does about 1.5 moa with those. If it so happens that a fellow gets a 1/2 moa factory rifle, then he really may not learn much. Finicky rifles and not being able to afford a custom rifle forced me to learn alot. If I could have been able to buy 1/2 moa factory ammo rifles then I wouldn't know how to reload at this point. Alot can be done with a consistent moa rifle. Theres Plenty of keyboard heros out there shooting consistent 1/4 moa with pencil barrel hunting rifles, lol. [/QUOTE]
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