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1moa or half moa guaranteed rifles... worth anything or just a gimmick?
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<blockquote data-quote="packgoatguy" data-source="post: 1581494" data-attributes="member: 27192"><p>So, my Tikka t3 300WM superlite has a 1MOA guarantee (with factory ammo). So does my Kimber mountain ascent... However, under the right circumstances and loads, both of these rifles have put out sub-halfMOA groups...</p><p></p><p>Now I am looking into buying a Fierce Arms Edge, and hear all the hype about its "half MOA" guarantee... and how special that is...</p><p></p><p>But, when I contacted Mogle about it, the response I got is that basically, all that guarantee means is simply that they found a particular factory load that happened to produce a half MOA or better group at 100 yards. They way it was described to me, they DONT guarantee that once it leaves their possession it will be guaranteed to shoot other quality ammunition at Half MOA or better. Merely that at one point in time, the rifle had actually shot a 3 round Half MOA group. And they ONLY guarantee that the particular factory ammo used (in this case 160gr Nosler Accubonds) was capable of being fired through that particular rifle in Half MOA groups. </p><p></p><p>This seems like a gimmick to me. Couldn't most any rifle manufacturer say exactly the same thing? Im sure I could take pretty much any new rifle off the shelf at Cabelas, and given the right conditions, and the right box of factory ammo... I could eventually find a sweet spot that gives me a 3 shot half MOA group. </p><p></p><p>Has anyone had success calling one of these rifle manufactures on their purported "guarantees"? Are any manufactures known for standing by their guarantees better than others?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="packgoatguy, post: 1581494, member: 27192"] So, my Tikka t3 300WM superlite has a 1MOA guarantee (with factory ammo). So does my Kimber mountain ascent... However, under the right circumstances and loads, both of these rifles have put out sub-halfMOA groups... Now I am looking into buying a Fierce Arms Edge, and hear all the hype about its "half MOA" guarantee... and how special that is... But, when I contacted Mogle about it, the response I got is that basically, all that guarantee means is simply that they found a particular factory load that happened to produce a half MOA or better group at 100 yards. They way it was described to me, they DONT guarantee that once it leaves their possession it will be guaranteed to shoot other quality ammunition at Half MOA or better. Merely that at one point in time, the rifle had actually shot a 3 round Half MOA group. And they ONLY guarantee that the particular factory ammo used (in this case 160gr Nosler Accubonds) was capable of being fired through that particular rifle in Half MOA groups. This seems like a gimmick to me. Couldn't most any rifle manufacturer say exactly the same thing? Im sure I could take pretty much any new rifle off the shelf at Cabelas, and given the right conditions, and the right box of factory ammo... I could eventually find a sweet spot that gives me a 3 shot half MOA group. Has anyone had success calling one of these rifle manufactures on their purported "guarantees"? Are any manufactures known for standing by their guarantees better than others? [/QUOTE]
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