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17 WSM Ammo 20 or 25 Grain?
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<blockquote data-quote="B1s BmagX2" data-source="post: 2011650" data-attributes="member: 116037"><p>My older pencil barrel is a 1 in 9 I believe, the bull barrel is 1 in 8. Since Savage did such a good job modding the pencil I go to it more often than the bull, just more convenient being lighter and all. The original pencil had the 26" barrel which as I stated before Savage shortened to 21". The horror stories surrounding the original B-mag are well-founded. A few shot pretty well right out of the box, I guess I was one of the lucky ones. A lot of them shot groups more like a shotgun!! Mine, after about a thousand rounds, went south on me and it was doing that shotgun thing! I tried bedding the action in a Boyds spike camp stock to no avail. I tried my old tried and true J-B bore paste and Kroil trick, still no luck. It sat in my gun safe for about a year. Since I had the bull barrel I figured why bother and was just gonna write it off! But I missed the convenience of a truly lightweight "walking" rifle. All that said I really believe that Savage hit the nail on the head when they shortened the barrel. All the newer models of the "pencil" come from the factory with a shorter 22" barrel I believe? They have a varmint type crown and it appears the barrel might be a tad heavier? That long thin barrel had to have a serious "whip" to it unless everything was perfectly straight and aligned properly. Not to mention soft spots in the barrel steel, a byproduct of button rifling? Mine was more than likely "perfect" out of the box and over time it became, for lack of better words, "misaligned"? I might be full of it, but that's what I think had a lot to do with the accuracy falling off so drastically. If you have the 26" pencil barrel just keep in mind my experience with it. Savage can make it right if you have a problem. If you can afford a Ruger you can't go wrong. I've owned many Rugers in the past 40 odd years and never had a bad one! As a matter of fact, the 22 hornet I mentioned in my earlier post was a Ruger 77/22 Hornet. My budget is more in line with Savage, which is good stuff but generally speaking, requires a little more attention to detail after the fact. I'm really satisfied with Savage mostly because they are very good at rectifying any problems you might encounter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="B1s BmagX2, post: 2011650, member: 116037"] My older pencil barrel is a 1 in 9 I believe, the bull barrel is 1 in 8. Since Savage did such a good job modding the pencil I go to it more often than the bull, just more convenient being lighter and all. The original pencil had the 26" barrel which as I stated before Savage shortened to 21". The horror stories surrounding the original B-mag are well-founded. A few shot pretty well right out of the box, I guess I was one of the lucky ones. A lot of them shot groups more like a shotgun!! Mine, after about a thousand rounds, went south on me and it was doing that shotgun thing! I tried bedding the action in a Boyds spike camp stock to no avail. I tried my old tried and true J-B bore paste and Kroil trick, still no luck. It sat in my gun safe for about a year. Since I had the bull barrel I figured why bother and was just gonna write it off! But I missed the convenience of a truly lightweight "walking" rifle. All that said I really believe that Savage hit the nail on the head when they shortened the barrel. All the newer models of the "pencil" come from the factory with a shorter 22" barrel I believe? They have a varmint type crown and it appears the barrel might be a tad heavier? That long thin barrel had to have a serious "whip" to it unless everything was perfectly straight and aligned properly. Not to mention soft spots in the barrel steel, a byproduct of button rifling? Mine was more than likely "perfect" out of the box and over time it became, for lack of better words, "misaligned"? I might be full of it, but that's what I think had a lot to do with the accuracy falling off so drastically. If you have the 26" pencil barrel just keep in mind my experience with it. Savage can make it right if you have a problem. If you can afford a Ruger you can't go wrong. I've owned many Rugers in the past 40 odd years and never had a bad one! As a matter of fact, the 22 hornet I mentioned in my earlier post was a Ruger 77/22 Hornet. My budget is more in line with Savage, which is good stuff but generally speaking, requires a little more attention to detail after the fact. I'm really satisfied with Savage mostly because they are very good at rectifying any problems you might encounter. [/QUOTE]
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