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<blockquote data-quote="hubel458" data-source="post: 786530" data-attributes="member: 6474"><p>We have a winner it seems. The 12ga sabots using 58cal slugs.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.gunownerstv.com/sabotpile.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>The sample 12ga sabots got here earlier this week. And we got a bunch </p><p>of testing already for opening and sealing, and some accuracy testing .440gr </p><p>Minie bullet, measuring .575"; with OD of sabot with slug in it of .737" It is </p><p>perfect. Going moderate 1800. Petals opened perfect and evenly and they all </p><p>stayed on perfect. No petals twisted or torn. Tested in 3" case with slower</p><p> powder loads. 80gr of 4759 and 50gr Alliant Steel. Fiocchi case.</p><p>Savage 210 rifled barrel, 1 to 35 twist. Cases with slower powders expanded</p><p>only a little, and those cases are soft ones.</p><p>We have big bunch of the sabots here now.</p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.gunownerstv.com/opensabots.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>All petals were opened at about 30 deg to the base when picked up.</p><p>With ither powder the bases have no damage, or burn throughs or melting. </p><p>Took rifling perfect, so skidding on the rifling. Most of the rifling grip is on the</p><p>bottom half of sabot, which is why these and Accutips are best as the bottom</p><p>is full size instead of dropping back in size, compared to the top, like many</p><p>other sabots. Rifling in the barrel still clean..</p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.gunownerstv.com/sabotrif.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>The Minies are hollow based and the slug edges did not cut into the inside of the </p><p>sabot bases,just a slight impression. We have got good base thickness.</p><p>Good Accuracy - In the cold and very windy day, hit milk jugs at 30 yds.</p><p>Here is picture inside sabot showing just a slight indent. No need of cards under</p><p>slugs, and if you did, the the slugs would set up in sabot and not have the</p><p>curve of the slug behind the inside circular rib for best fit...</p><p></p><p>You got to use right powders. With right slower powders( not fast shotgun),</p><p>that start easier and used in larger amounts, you won't tear up the sabots.</p><p>It is false economy to use all fast shotgun powders,trying to get twice as many </p><p>shots per pound... and tear up sabots, expand cases too much, get poor groups, </p><p>miss that deer or whatever. For most of you in 3" cases Alliant Steel is best.</p><p></p><p>Get with me for cases -- gunowner at journey.com Ph- 1-989-644-5228</p><p>THE undersize blue ones sold elsewhere for 34 bucks a hundred plus postage.</p><p>Ours are 33 bucks per 100 postage included, or $20 for 50 postage included,</p><p>with a bonus WE WILL send along 10 slugs with 100 order, 5 with 50 order.</p><p>to show you what to get and to test with. Slugs can be 440gr or 500gr..Ed</p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.gunownerstv.com/sabotdent.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hubel458, post: 786530, member: 6474"] We have a winner it seems. The 12ga sabots using 58cal slugs. [IMG]http://www.gunownerstv.com/sabotpile.jpg[/IMG] The sample 12ga sabots got here earlier this week. And we got a bunch of testing already for opening and sealing, and some accuracy testing .440gr Minie bullet, measuring .575"; with OD of sabot with slug in it of .737" It is perfect. Going moderate 1800. Petals opened perfect and evenly and they all stayed on perfect. No petals twisted or torn. Tested in 3" case with slower powder loads. 80gr of 4759 and 50gr Alliant Steel. Fiocchi case. Savage 210 rifled barrel, 1 to 35 twist. Cases with slower powders expanded only a little, and those cases are soft ones. We have big bunch of the sabots here now. [IMG]http://www.gunownerstv.com/opensabots.jpg[/IMG] All petals were opened at about 30 deg to the base when picked up. With ither powder the bases have no damage, or burn throughs or melting. Took rifling perfect, so skidding on the rifling. Most of the rifling grip is on the bottom half of sabot, which is why these and Accutips are best as the bottom is full size instead of dropping back in size, compared to the top, like many other sabots. Rifling in the barrel still clean.. [IMG]http://www.gunownerstv.com/sabotrif.jpg[/IMG] The Minies are hollow based and the slug edges did not cut into the inside of the sabot bases,just a slight impression. We have got good base thickness. Good Accuracy - In the cold and very windy day, hit milk jugs at 30 yds. Here is picture inside sabot showing just a slight indent. No need of cards under slugs, and if you did, the the slugs would set up in sabot and not have the curve of the slug behind the inside circular rib for best fit... You got to use right powders. With right slower powders( not fast shotgun), that start easier and used in larger amounts, you won't tear up the sabots. It is false economy to use all fast shotgun powders,trying to get twice as many shots per pound... and tear up sabots, expand cases too much, get poor groups, miss that deer or whatever. For most of you in 3" cases Alliant Steel is best. Get with me for cases -- gunowner at journey.com Ph- 1-989-644-5228 THE undersize blue ones sold elsewhere for 34 bucks a hundred plus postage. Ours are 33 bucks per 100 postage included, or $20 for 50 postage included, with a bonus WE WILL send along 10 slugs with 100 order, 5 with 50 order. to show you what to get and to test with. Slugs can be 440gr or 500gr..Ed [IMG]http://www.gunownerstv.com/sabotdent.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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