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<blockquote data-quote="hubel458" data-source="post: 577002" data-attributes="member: 6474"><p>With NEF 12GA Fh 3" group art 50yds with 600gr full bore slug</p><p>and some sabots, with my Enfield 585HE 3-4" at 100yds.</p><p>The NEF twist is 1-35, The Pacnor heavy barrels Rob and I got 1-20.</p><p>I have smooth bores also for testing those slugs made for them.</p><p></p><p>Videos--- Youtube blowing up 6gal pail of water -"Grandpa's Cannon"</p><p>"Grandpa's First Shot" 12ga FH -- 610gr HP at 2800-3000.</p><p></p><p>We get asked about legality and whether these big cartridges</p><p>are DDs. First of all; all shotgun calibers over 50cal are exempt from</p><p>being classified as DDs under Title 18 GCA Section 921....</p><p>And it doesn't matter what exciting or promo name we call them,</p><p>the barrels are still marked for gauge. They can be called 12ga 3 Inch</p><p>Super Magnum, 12ga Goose Magnum, 12ga From hell, 12ga 3.5 Express,</p><p>12ga Hammerhead, etc, they still are a 12ga case of some length.</p><p>And length doesn't matter as long as shorter cases, with straight</p><p>sides, and same 12ga(or whatever gauge)base size fit and fire in</p><p>longer chambers. IE; 2.5, 2.75, and 3" firing in 3.5", and all of these</p><p>firing in our 3.85" longer chamber. IE; you can't take 37mm cannon</p><p>shell and neck it to 12ga and have an automatically exempt 12ga</p><p>cartridge, as other shorter 12 gauges would not fit/fire in chamber,</p><p>and you'd have to get it exempt as sporting. How-</p><p>Under the same Section any other over 50cal non-shotgun</p><p>cartridge can be classified as Exempt For Sporting Use by</p><p>applying for the exemption, like I have done for my cases,and many</p><p>others(JDJ-AHR-Etc) have done, as well as cases already sporting</p><p>from the old days. Now as for hunting rules in shotgun areas,</p><p>game depts may say that you can't use long range spitzer bullets</p><p>but must use traditional blunt slugs, for safety. Hunting rules are</p><p>varied all over the place.Ed</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hubel458, post: 577002, member: 6474"] With NEF 12GA Fh 3" group art 50yds with 600gr full bore slug and some sabots, with my Enfield 585HE 3-4" at 100yds. The NEF twist is 1-35, The Pacnor heavy barrels Rob and I got 1-20. I have smooth bores also for testing those slugs made for them. Videos--- Youtube blowing up 6gal pail of water -"Grandpa's Cannon" "Grandpa's First Shot" 12ga FH -- 610gr HP at 2800-3000. We get asked about legality and whether these big cartridges are DDs. First of all; all shotgun calibers over 50cal are exempt from being classified as DDs under Title 18 GCA Section 921.... And it doesn't matter what exciting or promo name we call them, the barrels are still marked for gauge. They can be called 12ga 3 Inch Super Magnum, 12ga Goose Magnum, 12ga From hell, 12ga 3.5 Express, 12ga Hammerhead, etc, they still are a 12ga case of some length. And length doesn't matter as long as shorter cases, with straight sides, and same 12ga(or whatever gauge)base size fit and fire in longer chambers. IE; 2.5, 2.75, and 3" firing in 3.5", and all of these firing in our 3.85" longer chamber. IE; you can't take 37mm cannon shell and neck it to 12ga and have an automatically exempt 12ga cartridge, as other shorter 12 gauges would not fit/fire in chamber, and you'd have to get it exempt as sporting. How- Under the same Section any other over 50cal non-shotgun cartridge can be classified as Exempt For Sporting Use by applying for the exemption, like I have done for my cases,and many others(JDJ-AHR-Etc) have done, as well as cases already sporting from the old days. Now as for hunting rules in shotgun areas, game depts may say that you can't use long range spitzer bullets but must use traditional blunt slugs, for safety. Hunting rules are varied all over the place.Ed [/QUOTE]
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