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123 eld-m on deer, anyone use them?
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<blockquote data-quote="Almondgrower" data-source="post: 1587253" data-attributes="member: 106582"><p>It a comes Down to a ethical kill . Not the kill you intend on but the one you don't , like if the animal takes a step at shot break or the bullet glances of a stick half way between you and your target that you didn't see and hits the deer 6-8" OR MORE over from your point of aim . If you end up hitting the deer in the shoulder or hip bone unintentionally, you need to have a primium bonded or solid hunting bullet that will hold up , not a lite target bullet with a very thin jacket . ELD-m is a target bullet , ELD-X is for hunting although they don't make a hunting x that lite. There are other premium bonded or solid Bullets in that weight range that are good hunting Bullets , the lighter bullet for hunting you use , the better it needs to be !! I'm guessing your not looking for a high BC bullet or you would be in the heavier bullet range. I had a 10 year disagreement with a very close friend about nosler balistic tip Bullets . They shoot VERY well and that's really attractive but then there is the moral side but they are JUNK for hunting . He shoots factory Ammo w/Nosler balistic tips and I put him on his biggest mule deer at 75 yards with a rem 7mm , he got buck feaver , made a HORRIBLE shot and hit the deer in the right hip , the deer flopped around for 1 min before we had a angle on a CLEAN ethical shot that I made to dispatch the animal and end its suffering !! It looked like u put a M -80 under its skin and blew out meat the size of your fist onlybout 4 " deep , didn't even break the bone ! I made it very abrupt and told him THAT's why you shoot a primium Bullet or solids ! He has ever since . The primium hunting bullet in a tragic shot would have went all the way threw cousing fatal damage although not ideal of course . We were lucky we were able to get a follow up shot and the deer didn't run off and take days to die if it was not trackable ( It can and does happen ) I'm not trying to tell anyone what is rite or wrong , I'm just telling you becouse it was a terrible thing and absolutely unintended and I'd like to minimize that situation all I can by spreading the word . It's troubling how much is said on this site alone about guys using target Bullets for hunting , even worse , light target Bullets on bigger game like elk .....<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="☹️" title="Frowning face :frowning2:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/2639.png" data-shortname=":frowning2:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Almondgrower, post: 1587253, member: 106582"] It a comes Down to a ethical kill . Not the kill you intend on but the one you don’t , like if the animal takes a step at shot break or the bullet glances of a stick half way between you and your target that you didn’t see and hits the deer 6-8” OR MORE over from your point of aim . If you end up hitting the deer in the shoulder or hip bone unintentionally, you need to have a primium bonded or solid hunting bullet that will hold up , not a lite target bullet with a very thin jacket . ELD-m is a target bullet , ELD-X is for hunting although they don’t make a hunting x that lite. There are other premium bonded or solid Bullets in that weight range that are good hunting Bullets , the lighter bullet for hunting you use , the better it needs to be !! I’m guessing your not looking for a high BC bullet or you would be in the heavier bullet range. I had a 10 year disagreement with a very close friend about nosler balistic tip Bullets . They shoot VERY well and that’s really attractive but then there is the moral side but they are JUNK for hunting . He shoots factory Ammo w/Nosler balistic tips and I put him on his biggest mule deer at 75 yards with a rem 7mm , he got buck feaver , made a HORRIBLE shot and hit the deer in the right hip , the deer flopped around for 1 min before we had a angle on a CLEAN ethical shot that I made to dispatch the animal and end its suffering !! It looked like u put a M -80 under its skin and blew out meat the size of your fist onlybout 4 “ deep , didn’t even break the bone ! I made it very abrupt and told him THAT’s why you shoot a primium Bullet or solids ! He has ever since . The primium hunting bullet in a tragic shot would have went all the way threw cousing fatal damage although not ideal of course . We were lucky we were able to get a follow up shot and the deer didn’t run off and take days to die if it was not trackable ( It can and does happen ) I’m not trying to tell anyone what is rite or wrong , I’m just telling you becouse it was a terrible thing and absolutely unintended and I’d like to minimize that situation all I can by spreading the word . It’s troubling how much is said on this site alone about guys using target Bullets for hunting , even worse , light target Bullets on bigger game like elk .....☹️ [/QUOTE]
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