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<blockquote data-quote="RockyMtnMT" data-source="post: 1388975" data-attributes="member: 7999"><p>Sounds to me like you ighted in high at 100 yards for a theoretical 200y zero and then pluged those numbers into a balistics program that should have you pretty close out to 500y.</p><p></p><p>Reminds me of how I did this stuff with my 1st hunting rifle in 30-06 with a 4x Weaver scope. I wohld sight in (not zero) 4" high at 100y. That way I would be 8" low at 300y. This way I would be able to hit any big game animal out to 300y without any adjustment. We did not have range finders then and I never shot at anything other than an animal farther than 100y.</p><p></p><p>I may be all wrong here, but to me zeroing a rifle at any particular range means that you shoot it at that range and set the poi so that it is in the center of the poa. Shooting a rifle at the 100y range and sighting it in a few inches high is not zeroing. I have no problem with this method, I did it for years. I started zeroing my rifles when I started shooting long range and needed the data to be exact in order to make down range impacts on the 1st try. BDC reticles and theortical hold overs can be done regardless of precision out to about 500y. BC is inconsequential as well as environmental factors and close is good enough. I have a buddy that is a very good long range shooter that zeros his rifles at 100 meters and does it all in mills. This is where his mind is trained to work well with the solution for distance. I start throwing 300y zero and moa at him and he glazes over just like I do at the thought of trying to comprehend his method. What we do have in common is a precise zero that is performed at that range. Not a sighted in rifle that is a bit high at the range that it was sighted in at.</p><p></p><p>I think in this thread we have two different subjects going. One group is discussing sighting in their rifles and the other is discussing an actual zero for a rifle that has to be correct in order to have any hope of an accurate shooting solution beyond 600y. This second group has also shot these solutions in the field before trying to see if their will work on an animal.</p><p></p><p>Sorry for the rant. But these two different process for setting up a rifle are for two entirely different different objectives.</p><p></p><p>Steve</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RockyMtnMT, post: 1388975, member: 7999"] Sounds to me like you ighted in high at 100 yards for a theoretical 200y zero and then pluged those numbers into a balistics program that should have you pretty close out to 500y. Reminds me of how I did this stuff with my 1st hunting rifle in 30-06 with a 4x Weaver scope. I wohld sight in (not zero) 4" high at 100y. That way I would be 8" low at 300y. This way I would be able to hit any big game animal out to 300y without any adjustment. We did not have range finders then and I never shot at anything other than an animal farther than 100y. I may be all wrong here, but to me zeroing a rifle at any particular range means that you shoot it at that range and set the poi so that it is in the center of the poa. Shooting a rifle at the 100y range and sighting it in a few inches high is not zeroing. I have no problem with this method, I did it for years. I started zeroing my rifles when I started shooting long range and needed the data to be exact in order to make down range impacts on the 1st try. BDC reticles and theortical hold overs can be done regardless of precision out to about 500y. BC is inconsequential as well as environmental factors and close is good enough. I have a buddy that is a very good long range shooter that zeros his rifles at 100 meters and does it all in mills. This is where his mind is trained to work well with the solution for distance. I start throwing 300y zero and moa at him and he glazes over just like I do at the thought of trying to comprehend his method. What we do have in common is a precise zero that is performed at that range. Not a sighted in rifle that is a bit high at the range that it was sighted in at. I think in this thread we have two different subjects going. One group is discussing sighting in their rifles and the other is discussing an actual zero for a rifle that has to be correct in order to have any hope of an accurate shooting solution beyond 600y. This second group has also shot these solutions in the field before trying to see if their will work on an animal. Sorry for the rant. But these two different process for setting up a rifle are for two entirely different different objectives. Steve [/QUOTE]
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