zeiss vs. vortex for ar 15

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by raggedreef, Aug 22, 2012.

  1. raggedreef

    raggedreef Member

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    I have a new ar 15 in .223 that I am having a difficult time deciding which scope to put on it. I will mostly be using this gun for coyote hunting and some long range varmint and target shooting. My goal is to have something that makes a 600 yard hit consistently. The scopes I have narrowed it to is the vortex viper PST in either 4-16 or 6-24 or the Zeiss conquest in 6.5-20 with the varmint reticle. I can easily get the Zeiss and found a PST 4-16 ffp today at a local store. Suggestions on if the ffp is worth it? Should I wait to get a 6-24? I know the PST is a difficult scope to get your hands on. Any suggestions are much appreciated.
     
  2. denny2

    denny2 Well-Known Member

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    I have the Vortex 6-24x50 FFP, but I have it on a Savage rifle in .260.Not sure I would want that big scope on my AR. On my AR, I have Vortex Diamondback 3.5-10x50. But 10 power might not be enough for small targets at 600 yds. The 4-14 sounds about right if you need to get a quick shot with the AR and still able to zoom in for longer range..
     

  3. raggedreef

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    Denny
    How do you like the ffp reticle for hunting? Does it get too small at low power? Too big at high?
     
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    denny2 Well-Known Member

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    To be honest I just bought this scope in Feb. So I haven't hunted with it yet. The reticle does get very small and you cannot read the numbers 10 or 20 for MOA. then it does get bigger at higher power. I just shot last night at 880 yds and on 24X the crosshairs covered a 1.5 in orange dot I had on my target. I could see why people like SFP. I thought I might try some ranging with the reticle in the future and bought the FFP. I do like the scope but you should look through them before you make a decision.
     
  5. raggedreef

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    The only vortex I have had a chance to look through was the 4-16 PST ffp and it was only in the store so it was really hard to compare to anything. I just felt like it could be hard to focus on the small reticle at 4x with a running coyote at 50 yards. Any input?
     
  6. denny2

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    I will have to look through mine tonight, but mine only goes down to 6X. I will see if I can get some farm cats running at 50yds.:) But not shoot them!
     
  7. raggedreef

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    Cool let me know how it goes.
     
  8. denny2

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    Well the 6X is a little high but not bad. Also the markings of 10 and 20 MOA are not as small as I thought. I can read them on low power. One thing that is nice is the illuminated cross hairs if you decide you need to see them better. I would still go for the 4-16 on the AR.
     
  9. raggedreef

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    On the moving targets is it hard to find the center of the cross hairs or do your eyes move to it quickly?
     
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    I didnt have any problem. But the illumination is there if you really want to see the cross hairs instead of the black blending in.
     
  11. denny2

    denny2 Well-Known Member

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    raggedreef, What scope did you end up getting, and how do you like it?
     
  12. raggedreef

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    I ended up with the 4-16 vortex viper PST. I have only put like 50 rounds through it but so far I love it.The only complaint is that the turrets are a little easy to spin so if iI slide it in and out of a case theysspin. But they always return to my zero.
     
  13. 6.5x61Super

    6.5x61Super Well-Known Member

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    ...this may re-enforce your decision!


    very happy with mine....btw I shot this groundhog at 637 on 10X


    switch to 1080p for higher res


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81pMVGZNGi0]6PDK Ohio Groundhogs 637 yard Shot AR15 AR-15 6.8SPC Sniper - YouTube[/ame]
     
  14. denny2

    denny2 Well-Known Member

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    Raggedreef, The turrets click really solid on mine. the case i use has a zipper that goes the whole top of the case. 6.5x61Super, That is some great shooting! You really have a ground hog problem.