TTSX or Scirocco for 7MM long range???

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by Elkslayer1, Jul 26, 2010.

  1. Elkslayer1

    Elkslayer1 Well-Known Member

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    I have a 7Mm Rem Mag and am considering a 150 TTSX or Scirocco for ranges out to 800 yards on mule deer and elk. I have 168 bergers and 160 accubonds, but just want to know how you think the other 150 grainers would do and open up?????
     
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  2. silvertip-co

    silvertip-co Well-Known Member

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    I shot Sciroccos in my LRH rifle for two yrs in Hornady HEavy MAg ammo and they were pretty darn good. But what I read about these TTSX bullest says they are 'sposa' be sooo much better. I have not yet tried them for economic reasons, but soon as I get a job and a paycheck I plan on ordering half a doz boxes. I think they are in the new SuperPerformance from Hornady.

    Good luck.
     

  3. Boman

    Boman Well-Known Member

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    I'd shoot which ever one shoots best, but I'd lean to the Bergers or the Barnes. But that's me.
     
  4. kiwi3006

    kiwi3006 Well-Known Member

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    The ttsx would have to be good on elk, especially up close, don't know how well they open at range though.
    I would lean towards the 160 accubond. I have seen pictures on what it has done to small deer at ranges of 600 yds and was impressed. It still opens at range, but also retains mass so that it penetrates.

    In my 7mm mag I use 160 accubonds under 300 yds and bergers past 300 yds, but in NZ I am only using them on deer, no elk where I hunt.

    Stu.
     
  5. Popapi

    Popapi Well-Known Member

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    Tip the SuperFormance Hornady's has Hornady's GMX sold copper TIPPED bullet not the Barnex TTSX Sir. Hope and pray things look up quick for ya as per the job Sir!
     
  6. Popapi

    Popapi Well-Known Member

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    The Swift SSII and Bergers should have the better BC for your long range shooting!
     
  7. winmag

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    True, but will the Scirocco II's open at extended range as good as the ttsx? I know Swift changed thier alloy's in the Scirocco II's to reduce copper fouling relitively recently. I love Accubonds!! But the main reason I went with them was it seemed to be the best combination of a tough bullet that would still reliably expand at range. Next choice would be the Barnes TTSX. I just wonder if the Swift isnt just a bit ''too tough'' for looong range?
    Wow I never thought Id here myself say that.......Im always recomending tough bullets, and singing thier praises..........:D OK this is weird
     
  8. Popapi

    Popapi Well-Known Member

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    I would imagine they would being that they're not a ALL copper bullet like the TTSX and TSX! Someone did a bullet test on SSII as per them being shot at different FPS's they did show the bullet opening. I wouldn't hesitate one bit to us them!
     
  9. Smoke

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    I have hunted with 150gr Sciroccos for the last 4 or 5 years in my 7mm win mag. I've taken over 20 deer successfully from 25 to 330yrds without a problem. Here in Mississippi there aren't very many places to hunt where shots will be over 300yrds. I love this bullet! It holds together well at close ranges and expands well at ranges out to 300yrds. I've only recovered 3 bullets and they were on ranking shots on deer under 100yrds. I selected the siroccos over the tsx simply because they shot the best in my particular rifle. I've found that it really boils down to shot placement. I don't take marginal shots. Dead is dead...and every deer i've harvested would have been just as dead if I were using 150gr full metal jacketed bullets or ballistic tips! The ballistic tips would just ruin more meat!
     
  10. mcseal2

    mcseal2 Well-Known Member

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    I tried the scirocco, but my rifle preferred accubonds. I haven't tried barnes bullets just because they have a lower BC than the berger bullets or polymer tipped lead bullets.

    I like the accubond bullets because they open very quickly. I have shot many coyotes with the accubonds and they provide alot of shock becaust they open so fast but then retain most of their weight to penetrate. I don't want a bullet to retain 90%, I like having the bullet shed some shrapnel and do additional damage while passing through an animal, and I want exit wounds on all big game.

    I have taken 6 deer with the 140gr accubonds in 7mm Rem Mag, and helped on 1 elk we shot with the 160gr accubonds. I've never recovered an accubond from a deer, but we recovered 5 from the elk. My friend shot the elk behind the shoulder at 350yds and it started off into a canyon it would have been hell to get him out of. I joined in the shooting after the first hit and we ended up putting 5 shots into the bull, 3 lung shots and 2 into the flank when he turned before dropping him 15 yds from the rim. The bull traveled about 125yds from the first shot. All the bullets recovered were perfectly mushroomed and retained 50-70% of their weight. A heavier or stouter bullet that retained 90 or 100% of it's weight may have penetrated better in this case. The only elk I ever shot myself fell to a 175gr soft point from the 7 mag at 468yds and exited the bull.

    The accubonds performed perfectly as advertised but lacked the energy to exit the elk at that range. They did the job well, but I plan to shoot a 30 cal magnum with 200gr accubonds next time I go after elk because I want the exit wounds. For anything smaller than elk a 140gr accubond from a .264, .277, or .284 bore started at 3000fps plus is my favorite recipe. Lighter recoil than the heavy bullets and pass through performance.
     
  11. XMC

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    Used Barnes 150gr TTSX last fall in my sendero 7mm rem mag; took one elk at 470 yards dead on neck shot and second at 720yrds heart/lungs… staying with TTSX for this year’s trip but going to 265gr in my 338 lapua.