Shot placement in Africa

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by 115vld, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. 115vld

    115vld Well-Known Member

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    Guys as some of you may have read I am leaving for Namibia in 8 days. I was just curious if any of you have gone and was wanting to know if I should keep using the high shoulder shot like I do here on my longer shots or if I need a different placement. Im going after Kudu, Gemsbok, red hartebeast, blue wildebeast, spring buck, and wart hog. Any knowledge will be greatly appreciated.

    Just FYI we just bought a Hi def canon camera that takes stills also. We will have 13 kills( maybe more) on video and tons of pics. Its all the cheetah, baboon, and jackels we can shoot for no extra cost. To say I am excited is a sad understatement. I am very excited to share the stories with yall when I get back. Hope it tops last years Alaskan Dall sheep hunt. Many pics to come fellas!!!

    Chase
     
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    The only one I have heard of is the gemsbok's spine is very low through the body. I have read where hunters were told not to shoot higher then half way up the chest.

    Never hunted there myself. Look forward to the pics and video.
     

  3. 115vld

    115vld Well-Known Member

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    Thanks kiwi. I will keep that in mind on a gemsbok.
     
  4. Ub3rn00ber

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    Thanks for the help at the range today. Good luck on your trip.

    - Sean
     
  5. 115vld

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    NO prob sean. Always happy to help out a fellow shooter. Now get your qual at 300 so you can start shooting at 600 more often!!
     
  6. flyin lizard

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    A fellow I use to work with went to Africa and his P.H. was very specific on telling him were to place the bullet..
     
  7. 300WSMMAD

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    Firstly you will have a ball, Namiba is a great place, great people, awsome beer, UNBELIEVABLE HUNTING!!! Id move there.

    All of the animals you have listed are no different to all the others in the world the vitals a more or less in the same place.
    Hitting the shoulder is a favorable idea, mechanical damage is a must, YOURE NOT THERE TO HARVEST MEAT! Hit em as hard as you can.
    These animals are tough critters my Hartebeest got hit with a 338 Win Mag highish shoulder it dropped on the spot, then got up and ran and ran and ran.
    That animal got hit no less than another 7 yes 7 times with a 458 lott after the 1st shot with the 338, the guide told me they were tough, holy cow!!

    Just to get you excited

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    My list was

    Jackel,Gemsbok,Warthog,Impala,Kudu,Springbok,Zebra,Hartebeest, and Blue Wilderbeest oh and a Baboon.

    All the best for the hunt it will change your life.
    Any other tips for african travel of what to do just PM me, more than happy to help.

    Regards WSMMAD
     
  8. 115vld

    115vld Well-Known Member

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    PM sent
     
  9. bigbuck

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    Guys I find it hard to save enough money to go out to colorado on an elk hunt , I can only imagine how much a trip to africa would cost . Can you tell me how much a trip like this would cost?
     
  10. 115vld

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    Big buck,

    All the hunts will be different in cost depending on how many in a group you get to go and how many animals you want to harvest. THis trip is far cheeper than my Dall sheep hunt was last year. This trip without airline expenses will be about 8k for six animals. THat does include lodging and everything else you can think of. Air should be about 1500 if you buy early enough. LEt me know anything else you might have a question on.

    CHase
     
  11. bigbuck

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    Is that 8,000 per person for all those animals?
     
  12. 115vld

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    yes it is. Depending on what you choose to shoot and how many people go will change the prices.
     
  13. HUAINAMACHERO

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    115vld
    Havent been there yet, looking forward to it in the future.
    Close friends have been in Africa three times so far, Tanzania, South Africa and Kenya, they allways come back talking about how tough those animals are!!!
    +1 on hitting them as hard as you can.gun)
    Wishing you the best of lucks, please keep us posted on how it all went.
     
  14. LRHWAL

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    115VLD

    I can’t really answer your question as it’s not a shot I’m specifically partial to, although I keep telling myself to try it out for a while. The problem is that what I do works just fine! If your shot will hit the spine in the chest area I'd think it should work just fine.

    I'd guess that the story related in the other response was due to a shot that went somewhat too high. Spinal shock knocks the animals right down and often you unload the rifle and walk up and your trophy jumps up and runs off, with adrenalin in the driving seat. You may never find those. I've tracked a Springbuck on foot in the Kalahari for 5 hours. The animal was hit through the spinous processes in line with the shoulder with a 300 WM! Thankfully I caught up to him just before dark.

    I strongly recommend you buy "The Perfect Shot" (by Kevin Robertson – “Doctari”) either the mini or full edition. It contains a lot of good pictures of animals, including the bone structure drawn in. The choice of caliber and bullets recommended may not agree with what we at LRH like to use (or my preferences) and I have seen opinions differ on some of his recommendations, but he is experienced and widely respected and certainly knows more than you or I probably ever will. The pictures are really useful. The few $ of the cost of the book compared to the total $ of the safari make it a worthwhile help to ensure your success. You can look it over on the plane.

    In short I like the "Vital Triangle" shot where possible, but friends have had good results with the high shoulder shot from time to time. You need to know the anatomy as was pointed out by others (Blue wildebeest is the most risky, gemsbuck too, but less so). I've used the shoulder /spinal shot with some success, through the centre of the shoulder blade, but this is lower than what I've seen in long range videos of elk hunting. This was not on the larger species.

    I'm not that sure about elk anatomy as you aren't about African animals, so it makes it harder for me to comment. Usually you can see the bones through the animal's skin here as the hair is short and the coat shiny in most cases. You will see a V on it's side created by the shoulder blade and the humerus, with the shoulder joint the point of the V. This helps if you want to take a shoulder / spinal shot. Most like to just slip the bullet into that V and results are good. Your PH may well have shots he likes or hates and I strongly suggest you discuss your preferred shots and his with him before the hunting starts.

    Beware of side on neck shots on both Wildebesst and Gemsbuck as well as the spine does dip very low.

    I’ve hunted those animals, some with various calibers, (not because I’m wealthy, but because I'm South African :D), and mostly with a 300WM with 210 VLD’s which is my favourite for the larger species in plains hunting.

    I’m not sure whose rifle you will use and what caliber and bullets you intend to take and that can be quite a relevant discussion too. Namibia has very varied topography and vegetation, so your hunting conditions are also not clear to me.

    Best of luck. I’m sure you’ll love it.
     
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