Savage headspace question

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by DennisH8706, Sep 23, 2012.

  1. DennisH8706

    DennisH8706 Member

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    So I re-barreled my savage rifle the way I always have but there's a possible problem. I set my FL die up so that the ram cams over slightly on the die at the top of it's stroke. FL sized 4 pieces of once fired brass. Placed one piece of clear packaging tape on the case head (.003" aprox.) of the FL sized brass and used that as my "Go-gauge." I placed another piece of tape on the case head (.006" total aprox.) and used that as my "No Go-gauge." I tested two pieces of brass for each Go and No-Go. Now the potential problem is I have two factory loaded rounds that will not chamber. One is Lake City and the other is remington. They're both pretty old but are clean. They will go into the chamber but the bolt stops at the 3'oclock position. I don't really plan on shooting factory ammo out of my rifle but it would be nice to have that option. It will only be fed reloads.

    Why is it that the factory ammo won't chamber but all my brass chambers fine. Is it because I set up my headspace to match my dies?

    I used the exact same method to headspace my .223 savage and it will shoot factory ammo and reloads just fine. I'm temped to get a go gauge but I'm stubborn and cheap.

    Thanks in advance.

    Dennis
     
  2. submoa

    submoa Well-Known Member

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    I thought there was only .004 from go to no go gage? ????
     

  3. Greyfox

    Greyfox Well-Known Member

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    I think that using headspacing on the cam over of your dye is the issue. In my experience, the measurement of the head space on cases can vary quite a lot based upon the degree of cam over. The headspace measurement can be very sensitive to small changes. Your cam over setting on your dye may be too light for your factory spec loads. It would be better to set the headspace of your chamber to the factory spec headspace, then adjust your dye to set the proper headspace. If you are only going to use your reloads, you are probably ok, but do loose the flexibility of shooting factory ammo.
     
  4. shortgrass

    shortgrass Well-Known Member

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    If you want the option of shooting factory loads, quit being cheap and buy a "GO" gauge. Brass with tape is not a gauge.
     
  5. Dave Kiff

    Dave Kiff Official LRH Sponsor

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    SAAMI calls for the go at min. and the no go at pluss .010. Since the millitary calls + .010 a max field gage. Years ago Red Elliotte, Kieth Francis, P.O.Ackely and my self being taught by these gents changend most all shops to adapt to better chambers and I still teach this today . A go is min a no go is pluss .005 ( not all but most) and the feild gauge is pluss .010. On gas guns the go is pluss .0015 and the no go will differ per company. Thanks Dave Kiff
     
  6. X Ring Accuracy

    X Ring Accuracy Member

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    Amen, and buy a no-go guage at the same time, its only your face sitting behind it when it goes bang.
     
  7. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to LRH! I didn't want to assume anything but are you from PT&G.

    Ed
     
  8. DinoS

    DinoS Member

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    I did the tape thing as well, I now own a go and no-go gauge for both my savage rifles, different calibers. I did not want things to bo K-plewie when they were only suposed to go bang.
    I'm cheap but this isn't where I will cheap out. The gauges are not all that much money. After all my kids, friends and their kids shoot these guns too.


    Dino
     
  9. DennisH8706

    DennisH8706 Member

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    Just an update, it works perfect and my brass isn't being overstretched. I have .005 headspace.