rcbd super velocity's?

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by 460or338, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. 460or338

    460or338 Well-Known Member

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    2005 NEW Products donw on the bottom 416 wby mag @ 4000 fps with 180 graingun).ANd look at their 30-06 ammo 3500 ft lbs energy with 125 grain
     
  2. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    I'll stick with my big bullets. You will have a ton of energy up close, but down range because of being such a light bullet, you won't have anything to do any real damage.

    Tank
     

  3. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    We have been through this before (Remington had this type of ammo 20 years ago)
    And the sabots are not very accurate at longer distances.

    They are fun and recoil is almost nothing but that's it, And besides Who wants to load a
    180 gr bullet in a 460 Weatherby. The ballistics are terrible and there are much better
    calibers for a 180 gr bullet.

    Velocity sells but so does accuracy and in this business it takes both.

    I noticed that they had 50BMG and In my opinion the light bullet defeats the whole
    purpose of the big 50.

    You can try them but I think you will see that the accuracy is not there at extended distances.

    I can only see one place for extremely light bullets and that is in a self defense handgun load that
    you wouldn't want to go through several walls after dispatching the bad guy.

    Just my opinion !

    J E CUSTOM
     
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  4. 3fingervic

    3fingervic Well-Known Member

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    Excuse my ignorance, but wouldn't those speeds be tough on a barrel? Also, would the twists needed be different?
     
  5. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    Well I suppose you could go with a slower twist, and if it is a sabboted round, then it is probably a plastic sabot. That would require a lot of cleaning to get the crap out of your barrel. I could be wrong!!! If it was a sturdier material then it stands to reason that yes it would be hard on barrels.

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  6. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    It's not a bad question.

    First the problem is that the plastic does not engrave well so the rifling does not matter much
    but your point is well taken. Maybe with a much slower twist rate they may shoot better but
    most rifles are have twist rates for normal bullets and It would not make much sense to build
    a rifle arround a single type of projectile because if it did not work you would be stuck with a
    rifle that would probably not shoot with any of the normal bullets.

    Also when I tested the sabots I found some of them 50 to 75 yards down range others 10 to
    20 yards away indicating that they were not opening at the muzzle every time and if they
    stay with the bullet very long they will surely effect accuracy.

    On the really large muzzle loaders they work well up to 2 to 3 hundred because these bullets are very heavy and travel at low velocities.(But they are still short range bullets in my opinion.

    The sabots will also coat your barrel with a film of plastic, It can be removed with special
    solvents that are used on shot guns that shoot plastic shot cups. It will not harm your barrel
    even with the hyper velocities.

    The military uses sabots with good success because the projectile is very very large and the
    sabots are in 4 or more pieces and the project has fins to rotate and stabilize it.

    As I stated earlier they work well for pistols because they are short range,low velocity,lower momentum (Won't penetrate as well as other bullets) and have less recoil for quick follow
    up shots.

    As I said ; Buy a box for your favorite rifle and try them at 400yards+ and the answer will
    be in the accuracy.

    J E CUSTOM