pro/cons of the 200 grain accubond vs 180 gr speer btsp in 300 win mag

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  1. devildog090106

    devildog090106 Member

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    I am fairily new to reloading, and was wondering what would be the would be better on elk at up to 600 yrds. I have developed a load for both the 200 gr nosler accubond ( ballistic coeficient .588) at approximately 2900 fps and the 180 gr speer btsp ( ballistic coeficient .540) at approximately 3100 fps. Both group sub moa from my remington m710 with 22 in. Barrel, 1:10 twist, and weaver scope. Its a cheap rifle but has always grouped well with anything i threw at it, up to .5 moa with proper load. Thank you for your time
     
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  2. MagnumManiac

    MagnumManiac Well-Known Member

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    In the real world an elk shot with either bullet wouldn't notice the difference, but in a true long range sense, the 200gr Accubond would be the better choice, flatter trajectory and harder hitting at 600yrds.

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  3. Lone Hunter

    Lone Hunter Well-Known Member

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    Have you chronographed your loads or are you using approx fps? They seem pretty fast compared to my loads. Just curious is all. I have never shot an elk so I could not answer your question. I have shot deer with a 180 and it does a very good job. Some guys shoot the 200 in F-Class and like it. But that is different shooting, paper vs flesh.
     
  4. roninflag

    roninflag Well-Known Member

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    Devil- where are you hunting elk?? bulls ? cows?
     
  5. devildog090106

    devildog090106 Member

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    Thank you for the info gentleman. And those are approximated out of the reloading manual. If you have observed speeds i would appreciate the info.
     
  6. devildog090106

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    North idaho. Bulls only. Cows are a draw only tag now up here. Lots of cross canyon shots, ebery once in a blie moon you get some in close, but i usually hint the last half of the season so they are a little flighty by then
     
  7. roninflag

    roninflag Well-Known Member

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    the 200 is going to have more energy . i would shoot the one that shoots the smallest group at 300 and 500
     
  8. HARPERC

    HARPERC Well-Known Member

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    The 200 grain bullets is where the .30 calibers begin to shine in my opinion. 2900 fps is a reasonable expectation in the .300 Winchester.
     
  9. devildog090106

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    Still tweaking the loads a bit, energy is gonna be pretty neck and neck according to software out to about six. My range got closed for the 300 and above ranges so ill have to do some exploring. Thanks again for the input yall. Much appreciated
     
  10. cold kreek custom rifles

    cold kreek custom rifles New Member

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    I build custom rifles and ile take the 300 wm any day i shoot a rem 700 action 26 inch shilan varmint barrel fluted for wheight reduction and a muzzle brake 1-10 twist. Im loading 200 grain accubond with 78 grains h1000 at 30 thou off the lands at 3060fps through the chronograph. hand loads have all been within 15 fps and most within 10 fps of eachother and .50 groups at 100 yards.ive shot black bear, elk, and deer with this rifle from 60-715 yards. Acording to nosler they recomend maintaining 2000 foot pounds for elk witch in my rifle takes me out to 800 yards. For deer i would go down to 1800 fpe witch is just past 900 yards. I love these 300 wm and it has never let me down. Nosler has now produced a 210 grain accubon long range bullet with an even higher BC then the standard accubonds i havent been able to get any yet i talked to nosler and they told me they are batching them in april 2014 and you can bet i will be ordering some these should be the best thing since bread and butter lol if they shoot well they will cary well past 1000 yards. Plus the benefit to the 300 wm is you dont use as much powder as the bigger canons and you get just as good of results and we all no powder is like gold right now. Well good luck with youre rifle and if you got any questions feel free to ask.
     
  11. cold kreek custom rifles

    cold kreek custom rifles New Member

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    Hey sorry its early and i havent had my coffee yet lol when i said 2000 foot pounds i realy ment 2000 fps and 1800 fps. Now that i corrected myself i feel that much smarter thanks to foldgers.
     
  12. devildog090106

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    Thanks for the input yall. Ended up ising the 200 grain accubond on a deer at two hundred yards. Closer than i expected but they preformed well considering it was a deer. I believe i will continue to use these on elk next year. Thanks again. I will also give the 210 grain accubonds as soon as they come out. Thank you for the heads up
     
  13. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    Don't overlook the Berger VLDs too, esp. the 210s and up.