New brass, is this normal?

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  1. justinp61

    justinp61 Well-Known Member

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    I just purchased 200 new Winchester 22-250 brass, I found 35 out of the first 100 either had a flat spot on the side of the mouth or had out of round mouths. Two had cracks in the case at the mouth. Is this normal? I purchased a bag of Remington last fall to get me started and only had to discard a couple. Winchester was recommended over Remington so that;s what I bought this time.

    On one of the other sites i visit I was told they look good and it would be ok to use them. Opinions?

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  2. Shumba

    Shumba Well-Known Member

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    It's normal to an extent. No worries, you should size all your brass before you fire it the first time, this will fix the case mouths.
     

  3. Korhil78

    Korhil78 Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately it is the norm with both remington and winchester. That is why most people have gone to Nosler, Lapua and Norma brass. You can give them a call and let them know how unhappy you are with the brass that you bought and they will probably send you a coupon for another 100 brass. That is about all you can do. They don't seem to care as long as people are willing to pay the cheaper price to get the crappier brass.
     
  4. SidecarFlip

    SidecarFlip Well-Known Member

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    Lets not forget Starline, Sarch (Top-Gun) and Federal as go to sources. personally, I have really good results with Federal. If it's good enough for the armed services, it's good enough for me.

    I keep hearing that Joyce Hornady brass is soft at the base, I presume in larger magnum cartridges. I haven't found that to be true in smaller cases and have had no primer dropout/loosening issues, in fact I have some Hornady brass on it's 6th go around with no issues other than case elongation.

    Dented case mouths on bottleneck (and some straight walled pistol cartridges) can occur in handling, especially in retail for sale on rack packaging where stuff gets tossed (literally) through many hands. Like the poster said, resize-reform prior to loading, that's sop for me and should be for anyone.

    You never want to take bulk brass and load without checking/resizing or inspecting because you never know what it went through ptior to you purchasing it.......

    Neck cracks are another issue. That has to do with the alloy the cartridges are made from, if never fired and an indication of cheaply manufactured cases among other things.
     
  5. CRNA

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    Well, my Win brass is always beat up around the mouths. I figure it is mostly from being banged around in the bad together. I just neck size them all first to get them nice 'n round again. I think if the necks had some sort of cracks in them though that's different. They would get the ole hammer to the body to smash it flat so my kids don't find it in the trash and put it back on my reloading bench to do daddy a favor.
     
  6. SidecarFlip

    SidecarFlip Well-Known Member

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    I'm a scrapper at heart so my crap brass goes in the non-ferrous drum. The stainless turnings go in another and the iron goes in another. The carbide inserts go in a box and the HSS goes in a box and once a year I make the pilgramage to the scrap yard and redeem my 'junk' for cash.

    I've netted over a grand for scrap before. Not bad for junk.
     
  7. chucknbach

    chucknbach Well-Known Member

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    Just went through 102 remmington only 1 had the the nickle pealing off the neck. I discarded and still had 101 left. I wouldn't use the ones with the split. Dented I'd use.

    Mouth's weren't deformed at all but ran them through the sizing die anyhow just in case.
     
  8. justinp61

    justinp61 Well-Known Member

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    I called Winchester and the worst ones are going back. I didn't cull any out of the second bag.
     
  9. backwoods83

    backwoods83 Well-Known Member

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    The brass is fine, for the price winchester is best then federal, hornady is soft I refuse to use any of there newer brass, discard the ones with split necks, use the rest. I have some winchester 308 cases that have there 11th load in them, and I don't baby them at all.
     
  10. boomtube

    boomtube Well-Known Member

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    New brass, is this normal?

    The splits, no. The dings, yes. Easy to fix too. Or you could buy Norma or Laupua cases and avoid the dings.
     
  11. OKIE2

    OKIE2 Well-Known Member

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    I have always bought Remington & Winchester but lately I have been buying
    Previ brass from Grafs&sons have not found any thing wrong with them and are half the price for 100 ct that the others com 50 per bag. I just wish they made all the calibers that I shoot.
     
  12. SidecarFlip

    SidecarFlip Well-Known Member

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    But...You have to ask yourself....'Why are they half the price'?

    I have a pretty good idea. I wonder if you do??
     
  13. SidecarFlip

    SidecarFlip Well-Known Member

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    I'm scratching my head on the Hornady brass. Walked past some Hornady factory loaded .338's yesterday because this thread came to mind.....

    I've never had any issue with Hornady in .223 for match reloads, some reloaded at least 6 times. Primers stay tight, no problem.

    Is it just the large caliber brass?

    Wondering.
     
  14. OKIE2

    OKIE2 Well-Known Member

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    I bet you have not used any but what is your idea?