This post is to let you know that I'm not sitting on my duff. Descriptive wise, those damn'd Bergers continue to amaze me. I down loaded a 150 VLD. When I found the bullet it lacked only 2" of penetrating the full 24". It deviated from a straight line by only 3" in 22". Hmmmmmmm. I also fired one reduced load with a 338 280gr HAT. It litterly blew my "box" apart. I found the aluminum tip at the 12" mark. Spatter on the upper part of the container shows that big things happened at about 14". I sifted, sorted and squeezed every cubic inch of the media and could not find any of the expended bullet other than the tip which with a little straightening could be used again. Neither could I find remains of several HATs shot into the blow sand back stop. I even took the front off of the back stop and spread the sand on card board and found nothing. It has been very difficult finding remains of the HATs. I filled a plastic waste basket with loose, dry blow sand in an attempt to isolate the bullets to a more manageable quantity of media. My first test was a 277 Nosler 150 Ballistic Tip. It's was pretty comical. The remains of the jacket was laying on top of the sand only 2" from the front edge. MV was 3450 and the basket was at 200 yards. That was a pretty quick turn. Talk about disapointing. A reduced load with a 338 300gr SMK was next. The remains were easy to find. Just dig down and follow the heat. When I touched somehing and it burned my finger tip I found a knarly looking jacket. The HAT's performance was similar to the SMK. Nothing remaining except a knarly portion of the jacket. The HAT's jacket is very soft compared to the SMK. I can flex the HAT's shrapnel but will cut a finger and not be able bend the SMK's. As pigs are hard to come by around here, I'm testing a new media that so far is very friendly in every way except for finding the bullet remains. A metal detector may be in order. The initial report is that the media works very well so far. The container allows for a 24" bullet travel. Of the two shots so far there are no exit wounds. I'll include pics in next update. BTW, the elk are bugeling out back and its tough to concentrate on much.