Wooo Hooo, I drew a antlerless elk tag this year. It only took me 6 years to do it but I finally got it. The only problem is that I don't know ANYTHING about elk hunting as I have never done it and never paid much attention to the elk hunting shows. I really hope to kill one at long range (800+). My shooting is plenty sufficient at 600. I need to find a place to practice a little furthur and I will be in buisness. I have heard that the 160gr. Accubond is the best 7mm bullet for elk (short, and long range). This hunt takes place in the redwoods therefore if I find the elk in the clear cuts the shots could be REALLY LONG but if they aren't in the cuts then I have to find em in deep timber where the shots will be 20 yards MAX. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Oh and I forgot to mention that I am shooting a 7mm rem mag. I have a good load for the 175 SMK as well but I don't know how that would perform on the close range shots. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.