Since I have had a good day, I am going to pick a fight . I notice that there is an ever increasing desire for most shooters to use Ballistic software, computers, wind speed meters and any other technology which helps the shooter to hit their mark. With the exception of the military and the Law enforcement bodies, I was under the impression recreatioanl shooting (hunting) was about one pitting oneself against the elements with the final outcome of the hunt resulting in a very rewarding kill using nothing but personal skill combined with ones own experience. So how can you possibly achieve the same satisfaction by using all the technology available ? What ever happened to " looks like about 700 yards and the wind is about 5 mph, so if I aim such and such, I should get that kill. Dare I say that I think many recreational shooters are so caught up in the available technology that is cleverly made available to them, that they actually miss the point of what they are really trying to achieve. Any takers ?? Cheers, Pete.