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So all that said, how do you as a "professional" feel about the "bump stock" issue? Maybe now that your all warmed up, you might let your true feelings about the perps being on par with the cops as for the weapons they use.
Typically only SWAT and TAC teams have full-autos... Your average cop has their primary sidearm (handgun), and a 12ga shotgun and/or a semi-auto AR15 locked in the roof rack of their squad car. Nothing special. This isn't LA in 1994, or prohibition era G-Men chasing sharply-clad gangsters that talked funny and had "choppas" they used against the LEO's trying to stop them... :rolleyes:

Another thing... There's never a such thing as a "fair fight"...Someone (on either side) will always have an advantage in some way or another...It might as well be We The People. If the SHTF, and we have to fight the government, would you feel safer having a bolt-action rifle, while they're shooting at you with M16's and M249 SAW's and M240B's? Think about it that way...
 
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Thanks for posting. We always thanks military soldiers for their service. We should do the same for law enforcement. They are in battle every day. And, while no one will deny there are a few bad apples in all areas, the dangerous criminals these cops face are far greater in number.

I always found it insane that people riot when a cop kills a dangerous criminal but remained silent when that same criminal was terrorizing their neighborhoods and children.
 
Sorry, but that's just a crazy statement!
How you figure that? Do you realize how close we are to being overtaken and pushed into a communist dictatorship if the Dems get anymore control over anything? They've already stated that they will declare a national emergency and confiscate guns, mags, and ammo the next time they win the Presidency... Sounds like a declaration of war against us and our Constitutionally-protected rights, doesn't it to you? It certainly does to me.
 
So all that said, how do you as a "professional" feel about the "bump stock" issue? Maybe now that your all warmed up, you might let your true feelings about the perps being on par with the cops as for the weapons they use.

Okay;)! My feelings on bump stocks is that I really do not care about them one way or the other. I do not see a particular need or particular niche that they fill. I am from a long time family of hunters shooters and law enforcement (sure that you have that one figured out:rolleyes:), and usually I will get in trouble when black guns become part of the topic after dinner. There was a quote on one of the posts on this thread, "That's a hill that I prefer not to die on," or, "That's a hornet's nest that I prefer not to kick!!" "IF" all of the military style rifles were removed from the face of the earth I wouldn't be too concerned or lose any sleep over it. However if one likes to shoot and one possess military style weapons, and those weapon and the right to possess them and guaranteed/protected under the second amendment, then no one should have the right to prevent them from having them to fulfill their own personal agenda, or their own political agenda. To me it is not any different than allowing individual or group/s with a personal interest being empowered to where they can selectively enforce the 4th amendment. By this I mean where the individual/groups are empowered in deciding whose house or whose residence gets searched and whose residence does not get searched. Sort of like some people get treated more equally than others!! For me that is what is wrong with politics and political power in our country. My concern is that with the anti-gun movement is taking away (trying to take away) or dissolving the 2nd amendment totally. I further fear that this is only the beginning of dissolving the entire US Constitution. The experience with the anti's is that given an inch they take a mile. The dems have a political agenda to pass strict gun control; disarm the country. In doing so making everyone disenfranchised so they can ply their own political/socialistic plans in enacted. Whether he made the statement or not may be disputable, however the message certainly is history, "Adolf Hitler, "To conquer a nation, you must first disarm its citizens." I feel that they are using people's anger/s, passions and fears to promote their agenda. Right now the anti gun lobby has our high school students organized while promoting their political gun control agendas. People are misinformed, being led to believe that removing all firearms will prevent all mass killings in our school, work places and places where we assemble. One of the most destructive mass killing was the Oklahoma bombing where a van, fertilizer and diesel fuel did the carnage. The blast killed 168 people, including 19 children. More than 500 people were injured. Further misinformation is that we need to pass stricter and more stringent gun control laws. First of all we already have gun control laws on the books in every state, they are just not enforced. People are misled to believing that anyone can go into a gun show and purchase a firearm without a background check, again not true. I'm rambling on here, and my feelings are that I really do not have any feelings about bumpstocks. I do however have concerns about how the 2nd amendment is being attacked and water down because of false information and political agendas. And.......this is MHO!!
 
How you figure that? Do you realize how close we are to being overtaken and pushed into a communist dictatorship if the Dems get anymore control over anything? They've already stated that they will declare a national emergency and confiscate guns, mags, and ammo the next time they win the Presidency... Sounds like a declaration of war against us and our Constitutionally-protected rights, doesn't it to you? It certainly does to me.

I'm thinking more along the lines of an extremist, left wing radical socialism!! This country is divided/fractured and in trouble. Extremely wealthy people/countries are trying to take it over.
 
I'm thinking more along the lines of an extremist, left wing radical socialism!! This country is divided/fractured and in trouble. Extremely wealthy people/countries are trying to take it over.
Yes, but the Democrat/Liberal/Leftist faction of our country is their standing army... They are the government, therefore they have access to weapons we as civilians, don't. And don't think for a minute that those insane leftists wouldn't send units out to a neighborhood near you if they could get away with it, without major resistance. The only reason they haven't yet, is because they're not quite powerful enough to get away with it.

One thing to always remember... The government hates us...All of us. They think they're better than us, and that we're nothing. This is why rules and laws don't apply to them, only to us peon citizens.
 
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Alibiiv... Without the 1st and 2nd Amendments, the rest of the Constitution would have long been eroded beyond recognition. Those 2 hurdles are the biggest challenge to the left, and that's why they want to destroy them so badly. They can't outright remove them, so they will slowly bastardize them into oblivion, one stupid anti-gun law at a time. And slowly destroy free-speech at the same time, by claiming everyone is a racist or bigot or some sort of "_____-phobe".

Those first 2 Amendments ensure the rest of them are safe. Therefore we must ensure the first 2 Amendments stay safe.
 
Yes, but the Democrat/Liberal/Leftist faction of our country is their standing army... They are the government, therefore they have access to weapons we as civilians, don't. And don't think for a minute that those insane leftists wouldn't send units out to a neighborhood near you if they could get away with it, without major resistance. The only reason they haven't yet, is because they're not quite powerful enough to get away with it.

One thing to always remember... The government hates us...All of us. They think they're better than us, and that we're nothing. This is why rules and laws don't apply to them, only to us peon citizens.
Lets just say Liberal/Left wing extremist are attempting to take over. Unfortunatly they have pretty well taken over the Democratic party as well.
Just recently we lost one of our biggest supporters in Congressman John Dingell from Michigan who fought for gun rights in congress for over 60 years.
He was also a Democrat.
 
Lets just say Liberal/Left wing extremist are attempting to take over. Unfortunatly they have pretty well taken over the Democratic party as well.
Just recently we lost one of our biggest supporters in Congressman John Dingell from Michigan who fought for gun rights in congress for over 60 years.
He was also a Democrat.

For me left-wing/radical/extremist/liberal = Democrat
 
For me left-wing/radical/extremist/liberal = Democrat
I agree, but there are also RINO's (Republican In Name Only), and they're equally as big of pieces of crap, if not worse...Because they're groveling beta turncoat traitors to their party... People like Paul Ryan and Mitch McClownell and John McCain.
 
Okay;)! My feelings on bump stocks is that I really do not care about them one way or the other. I do not see a particular need or particular niche that they fill. I am from a long time family of hunters shooters and law enforcement (sure that you have that one figured out:rolleyes:), and usually I will get in trouble when black guns become part of the topic after dinner. There was a quote on one of the posts on this thread, "That's a hill that I prefer not to die on," or, "That's a hornet's nest that I prefer not to kick!!" "IF" all of the military style rifles were removed from the face of the earth I wouldn't be too concerned or lose any sleep over it. However if one likes to shoot and one possess military style weapons, and those weapon and the right to possess them and guaranteed/protected under the second amendment, then no one should have the right to prevent them from having them to fulfill their own personal agenda, or their own political agenda. To me it is not any different than allowing individual or group/s with a personal interest being empowered to where they can selectively enforce the 4th amendment. By this I mean where the individual/groups are empowered in deciding whose house or whose residence gets searched and whose residence does not get searched. Sort of like some people get treated more equally than others!! For me that is what is wrong with politics and political power in our country. My concern is that with the anti-gun movement is taking away (trying to take away) or dissolving the 2nd amendment totally. I further fear that this is only the beginning of dissolving the entire US Constitution. The experience with the anti's is that given an inch they take a mile. The dems have a political agenda to pass strict gun control; disarm the country. In doing so making everyone disenfranchised so they can ply their own political/socialistic plans in enacted. Whether he made the statement or not may be disputable, however the message certainly is history, "Adolf Hitler, "To conquer a nation, you must first disarm its citizens." I feel that they are using people's anger/s, passions and fears to promote their agenda. Right now the anti gun lobby has our high school students organized while promoting their political gun control agendas. People are misinformed, being led to believe that removing all firearms will prevent all mass killings in our school, work places and places where we assemble. One of the most destructive mass killing was the Oklahoma bombing where a van, fertilizer and diesel fuel did the carnage. The blast killed 168 people, including 19 children. More than 500 people were injured. Further misinformation is that we need to pass stricter and more stringent gun control laws. First of all we already have gun control laws on the books in every state, they are just not enforced. People are misled to believing that anyone can go into a gun show and purchase a firearm without a background check, again not true. I'm rambling on here, and my feelings are that I really do not have any feelings about bumpstocks. I do however have concerns about how the 2nd amendment is being attacked and water down because of false information and political agendas. And.......this is MHO!!
You tap danced away from a direct question.
Lets be perfectly honest here, no cop in his right mind likes the idea of being outgunned.
And no cop in his right mind feels bad when things don't work out well for those who wish them dead.
This topic has nothing to do with long range, so no need to bring that into this discussion.
I didn't start it, but I do have an opinion, and I think it's been pretty clearly spelled out.
When a perp decides he's going to gun down a cop, he needs to know he could well pay the ultimate price right there if possible, no ifs or buts about it.
We have allowed our military and police to be politicised and that has to change or the respect for them will continue to deteriorate. I personally have no problem with weapons designed for military use being reserved for that type use only.
 
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